From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [solved] Re: How to uninstall Emacs?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 03:09:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a8y86frj.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.782.1429134342.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> writes:
> But the problem is that people don't actually do
> that very often. They don't learn first with
> a victim system and then work through the problems.
> Instead people run their critical production servers
> that way. They run their main desktops that way.
> And then when they have problems they complain that
> the OS is terrible, it crashed their desktop, they
> can't read their email, help!, and they sling enough
> mud at it. They can't wait to move off that terrible
> horrible distribution and move to the next one which
> is a thousand times better. Really! I see this all
> of the time!
OK, perhaps Sid shouldn't be used by Debian beginners
but you don't need to be a wizard to use it. If you
are an aspiring wizard perhaps using it will take you
closer to wizardry, at least if you have a parallel
system so you can still do stuff and don't have to
spend too much time fixing Sid.
> Many of the problems are related to package
> dependencies. Perhaps most of them. A Sid user needs
> to be skilled in identifying package dependencies,
> will need to hold packages, will need to manually
> install older versions of packages to avoid bugs
Indeed, you get to do such stuff.
I did this once - it was the image viewer gliv, which
I wanted because it can do slideshows, but the latest
version (in Debian Sid) had a bug and terminated on
startup. Once "down"graded it worked fine.
Temporarily change /etc/apt/sources.list and then
sudo aptitude install PACKAGE=VERSION
after finding out the sought-after version's number.
But I don't remember many such problems from my Sid
days. What might explain it is on the whole I don't
use aptitude that much, because I already have zsh and
Emacs :) But I definitely did install new
programs habitually.
--
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-08 18:29 How to uninstall Emacs? Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-08 18:30 ` J. David Boyd
2015-04-08 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08 21:15 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-09 19:54 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-04-11 13:11 ` Rodolfo Medina
[not found] ` <mailman.243.1428527741.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-09 23:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-11 13:11 ` [solved] " Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-11 19:05 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-12 11:34 ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-13 23:03 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-15 6:34 ` Rodolfo Medina
[not found] ` <mailman.611.1428966213.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-13 23:23 ` [solved] " Emanuel Berg
2015-04-15 21:41 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-16 15:38 ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-16 21:16 ` Bob Proulx
[not found] ` <mailman.848.1429218983.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-16 22:58 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-17 2:46 ` Rusi
2015-04-18 20:39 ` Bob Proulx
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2015-04-19 21:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-19 23:29 ` Bob Proulx
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2015-04-20 1:40 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.830.1429198561.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-16 22:47 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.782.1429134342.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-16 1:09 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2015-04-16 3:58 ` Rusi
2015-04-16 22:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-17 3:00 ` Rusi
2015-04-18 20:05 ` Bob Proulx
[not found] ` <mailman.1047.1429387523.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-19 11:59 ` Jim Diamond
2015-04-19 23:35 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-20 7:46 ` Alexis
[not found] ` <mailman.1136.1429490171.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-21 17:53 ` Jim Diamond
2015-04-18 21:08 ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-18 22:27 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-18 22:59 ` Rodolfo Medina
[not found] ` <mailman.504.1428838317.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-12 14:36 ` [solved] " Rusi
2015-04-12 17:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-12 18:50 ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-12 16:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-12 18:53 ` Rodolfo Medina
[not found] ` <mailman.482.1428779144.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-12 0:01 ` Emanuel Berg
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