From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Kost Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:09:37 +0300 Message-ID: <87a8suuowu.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87bndfauey.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87wpw0e58f.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87si6n822t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441908738 20304 80.91.229.3 (10 Sep 2015 18:12:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 18:12:18 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 20:12:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Za6K8-00018w-3h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:11:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50989 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Za6K7-0007s6-NI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:11:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49987) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Za6I3-0005Lj-TJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:09:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Za6Hx-0004L4-Rb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::234]:36318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Za6Hx-0004K4-IC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:09:37 -0400 Original-Received: by lbcao8 with SMTP id ao8so27645492lbc.3 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=filom6WQvoz/deLaFCHvNd0B9hA63RGMA5t0rbkDrhQ=; b=DVyRvbVG1jazrlgxvPaD2A6PMrhwlUsNKKwHLs8wDK4uBs/QW2ujwIm7ExP7j2UHYF QzdyY/jdWoa8SHcX/x5tVyXy2sewoLAEV1J6UFgoMUp1VuRA4M+sPTZi4N8ioyf3HbF1 L+vHuxaC9swHCK6EGUrqDKz/Oou4vTWl49XaEYNDJJu5g6De8PqhHX683HfVRKbV6qVv /ZxcOesdJdJTnGKXHnN8ANyhvsfGblDTbU7tnYmE/kDPAt/0ug5yofbQhUt/dDz9uXQ+ d3sfYw4mhbr5em2/sjbYbibsEMDekC/6YRUeFiqWnP8xTZKhH1Gp2DNWUJ/aE72U8UGs m5pQ== X-Received: by 10.152.6.194 with SMTP id d2mr37185246laa.93.1441908575382; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from leviafan ([217.107.192.146]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jf8sm2863765lbc.12.2015.09.10.11.09.34 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:09:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (Pascal J. Bourguignon's message of "Thu, 10 Sep 2015 06:21:23 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::234 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107124 Archived-At: Pascal J. Bourguignon (2015-09-10 07:21 +0300) wrote: > Emanuel Berg writes: > >> Why don't you do a Lisp OS with Lisp-only software? > > Time. Money. > >> Are there any particularly impressive Lisp programs >> I can try? A window manager, for example? > > Indeed, there is stumpwm. If Scheme is Lispy enough for you, then there is also guile-wm [1]. > There are a lot of CL servers and applications, it would only take time > to integrate them into a system with some kind of kernel (eg. a Linux > kernel, for the drivers), writing a init(1) in lisp. > > But I would expect that it would take more time to polish the result > into a really usable system. I'd bet on having the first integration > done would motivate people to polish it. > > On the other hand, there's also Mezzano if you want to try a recent > LispOS written in CL. As for the operating system, there is "Guix System Distribution" [2] which is based on Guile. It uses dmd as its init system (also written in Guile). You can also try Guix package manager on your current system; it will not interfere with the package manager of your system. I would say it's a very "impressive Lisp program". [1] https://github.com/mwitmer/guile-wm [2] https://www.gnu.org/software/guix -- Alex