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From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
To: steve-humphreys@gmx.com
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Understanding the "let" construct and the setting of variables
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:56:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6uc244a.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <trinity-d74515d5-16ba-4b28-a7df-932aa5fe68b9-1608194610119@3c-app-mailcom-bs11>


On Thu, Dec 17 2020, steve-humphreys@gmx.com wrote:
> This gets me to "defvar".  I have read that "setq" does net actually
> make a variable.  It is defvar that makes a variable available.

`defvar` creates a global variable, yes. `setq` creates a global variable if the
variable does not exist yet. So if you do:

```
(let ((a (some-value)))
  (do-something)
  (setq a (some-value-based-on a))
  (do-something-else))
```

Then setq updates the local binding for `a`. If you use setq on a variable that
doesn't have a local binding (i.e., isn't bound in the let that contains the
setq), it creates a new, global binding.

> Do the question really is this.  What happens when one sets an object with "setq"
> if elisp does not make a variable from the name?

Not sure I understand the question. With `setq`, two things can happen: either
there is already a binding for the variable, in which case `setq` updates the
binding (assigns a new value to the existing variable), or there is no such
binding (i.e., the variable doesn't exist), and in that case the variable is created.

-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-17  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-17  0:10 Understanding the "let" construct and the setting of variables steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  0:21 ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-17  2:08   ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  3:12     ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  8:01       ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-17  8:31         ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  8:50           ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-17  8:10     ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-17  8:43       ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  8:56         ` Joost Kremers [this message]
2020-12-18 20:48           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-18 20:46         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-18 21:07           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18 22:31           ` tomas
2020-12-18 20:39       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-17  2:49   ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  7:58     ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-17 16:55       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-17 20:11         ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17 21:57           ` Drew Adams
2020-12-17 22:35           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-18  9:01             ` tomas
2020-12-18  9:16               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-18 20:55                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-19  2:17                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-19  2:52                     ` Drew Adams
2020-12-19  5:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-18 20:33   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-17  0:25 ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  0:35   ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-17  1:05     ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-17  1:20       ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-18 20:58         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-17  4:34   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-17  5:12     ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-19  6:06       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-17  7:31     ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-19  5:55     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-19  6:49       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-20  5:19         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-18 17:14   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-18 17:48     ` tomas
2020-12-18 15:33 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-18 18:12   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18 18:20     ` Drew Adams
2020-12-18 18:45       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18 19:16         ` Drew Adams
2020-12-18 20:00           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-18 21:27     ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-19  6:23     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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