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Smith " Note that you need not include double quotes around individual parts of the address, such as the person=E2=80=99s full name. Emacs puts them in if they are needed. For instance, it inserts the above address as =E2=80=98"John Q. Smith" =E2=80=99. This describes correctly how this mechanism works, regarding it's outcome, but not why. I understand it's necessary to somehow mark in the alias definition where an address starts and ends, since there can be several. But I don't know why it's "needed" to put quotes around the John Q. Smith part of the address. Actually they seem to be superfluous and aesthetically not pleasing. To me it seems as quotes would be only needed if the string contained `@' or `,'!? Are the quotes really necessary (for what) and if not: Is it possible to get rid of the Quotes? Thanks, Gregor