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From: Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Advantage using mapc over dolist
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 16:57:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5dcu5d5.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ed2ou65o.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set>

On Tue 03 Dec 2024 at 16:40, Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com> wrote:
> On Tue 03 Dec 2024 at 15:59, Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com> wrote:
>> On Tue 03 Dec 2024 at 09:11, Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> wrote:
>>>>>           (pcase actm
>>>>>            ('armg (do-this))
>>>>>            ('go (do-that))))
>>>>
>>>> this does not justify pcase, use ecase or case instead
>>>
>>> That's your personal preference.
>>> My own personal preference is to forget about
>>> case/cl/case/ecase/cl-ecase and just use `pcase` like the author
>>> already did.
>>
>> I respect your preference and understand that you as pcase author would
>> prefer it everywhere.  But whoever renamed case and ecase did not
>> respect other peoples preferences and people are now forced to use that
>> pcase monstrosity even in very simple cases.
>
> ecase comes from here:
>
>    commit fcd737693e8e320acd70f91ec8e0728563244805
>    Author: Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>    Date:   Fri Jul 30 20:15:09 1993 +0000
>
>        entered into RCS
>
> renamed to cl-ecase here:
>
>    commit 7c1898a7b93053cd0431f46f02d82c0a31bfb8bf
>    Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>    Date:   Sun Jun 3 21:05:17 2012 -0400
>
> pcase comes from here:
>
>    commit d02c9bcd096c44b4e3d5e2834c75967b56cdecdd
>    Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>    Date:   Tue Aug 10 15:18:14 2010 +0200
>
>        * lisp/emacs-lisp/pcase.el: New file.
>
> Not very nice to dismiss other peoples preferences as "just your
> personal preference" while pushing through your personal preference.
> That ecase macro was there for many decades, even before import to RCS
> and you broke it and force your pcase way on everybody.  The author used
> pcase because of you, not very good argument for pcase merit.

And now thanks to pcase there is also cond*.
What a mess.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-03 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-01 23:31 Advantage using mapc over dolist Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02  6:26 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-02 18:30   ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02 20:41     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-02 20:50       ` Jean Louis
2024-12-02 21:21         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-02 21:41           ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03  6:13           ` Jean Louis
2024-12-03  7:36             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 19:24               ` Jean Louis
2024-12-03 20:04                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 20:09                   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-03 20:12                   ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 20:24                     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-02 20:56       ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 19:26         ` Jean Louis
2024-12-03 19:39           ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 14:11   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 14:48     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 16:31       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-03 17:00         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-12-03 17:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-03 19:27             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 19:35               ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 14:59     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 15:40       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 15:57         ` Tomas Hlavaty [this message]
2024-12-03 17:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 17:33             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 17:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 17:55                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 18:05                   ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 18:57                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-12-03 19:06                       ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 20:15                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-04  5:37                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-12-03 19:42         ` Jean Louis
2024-12-03 19:54           ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 20:11             ` Jean Louis
2024-12-03 16:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-03 18:01         ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 20:05           ` Jean Louis
2024-12-03 20:35         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 23:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-04  0:57             ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-04  2:20               ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-03 19:38       ` Jean Louis
2024-12-04  4:56       ` Michael Heerdegen via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02  6:59 ` Tassilo Horn
2024-12-02 10:12   ` Michael Heerdegen via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02 17:03     ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02 18:51       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-02 20:17         ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02 21:07           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 13:19             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-02 21:15         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-02 21:58           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-02 22:42             ` Drew Adams
2024-12-03  5:49               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-03 20:08                 ` Lazy functional programming [was: Advantage using mapc over dolist] Drew Adams
2024-12-03 21:17                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-12-04  4:33         ` Advantage using mapc over dolist Michael Heerdegen

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