From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: is undefined Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:49:12 +0800 Message-ID: <878ue066l3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87fv8awn75.fsf@debian.uxu> <925493db-8d9b-4182-bda2-f0084bc4cbfa@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428634188 10153 80.91.229.3 (10 Apr 2015 02:49:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:49:48 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 10 04:49:38 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YgP0i-0006fd-2a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:49:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37277 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgP0h-00044T-J8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 22:49:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgP0X-00044K-VM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 22:49:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgP0U-0002UX-PV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 22:49:25 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgP0U-0002UH-IR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 22:49:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YgP0R-0006Y1-8e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:49:19 +0200 Original-Received: from 114.248.19.146 ([114.248.19.146]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:49:19 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by 114.248.19.146 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:49:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114.248.19.146 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:L+uBhJDXrG1NVPTfk94qjhoNa8k= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103619 Archived-At: jonetsu writes: >> From: Rusi >> Date: 04/08/15 23:00 >> Subject: Re: Re[2]: is undefined >   >> 1. Try starting emacs with unset XMODIFIERS and see if the problem goes away > > I have tried: > > XMODIFIERS="" emacs > > and: > > /usr/bin/env -u XMODIFIERS emacs > > And both of them get rid of the ' is undefined' emacs > message, but that's it.  The letter with the accent, as it appears at > the (k)console, firefox, sylpheed-claws client, etc... is not shown in > emacs. > >> 2. Why/what do you use ibus for? > > Chinese.  Well, I try, as it seems to be quite broken in Linux Mint > 17.  Either it is broken, or the OS input method has seen some > changes.  emacs does have a Chinese input mode these days although it > is really not nice to use.  I'm used to ibus and emacs and have > written a lot of text easily that way, on a previous OS (Linux Mint > 14, which I still boot when I have specifically Chinese text to > write).  Now I would like to use a more recent OS, and add actual > pinyin notation alongside Chinese hanzi. I can't help with the compose key problem, as unsetting XMODIFIERS does work for me, but I found ibus eventually unusable in Emacs. I've switched to fcitx for system input, which works okay, but it doesn't work in Emacs either! The Emacs package manager has an input method called chinese-pyim which I'm finding quite good -- it takes a bit to train, but after that it's very nice to use. Or do as I'm trying to do, and learn the Wubi input method... Sorry, no actual solution to your problem, but some alternatives... Eric