From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Global keymap not found Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:53:33 +0200 Message-ID: <878u7dg2r6.fsf@web.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444294533 2572 80.91.229.3 (8 Oct 2015 08:55:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 08:55:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 08 10:55:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6yq-0005Qf-LT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:55:16 +0200 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6xl-0000lE-RI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 04:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43063) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6xl-0000jn-9H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 04:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33042 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6xl-00030P-4S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 04:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55756) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6xZ-00030I-U0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 04:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6xV-0008Pb-Sb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 04:53:57 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6xV-0008PX-LJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 04:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zk6xU-0004EO-QJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:53:52 +0200 Original-Received: from ip-90-186-0-85.web.vodafone.de ([90.186.0.85]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:53:52 +0200 Original-Received: from michael_heerdegen by ip-90-186-0-85.web.vodafone.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:53:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-90-186-0-85.web.vodafone.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3mpw+SBOmv1r8dAwv5wMtvp/Sps= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107552 Archived-At: Albrecht Mehl writes: > ... they describe an unsatisfactory at least to me situation. The keys > and the prefix keys are basic elements of emacs. They should be > available in a reference list/table in a matter of seconds and the way > to get them should be described and made open by a clickable link at > the same place within 48.3.1 of the manual. C-h b is the thing you are looking for - scroll to section "Global bindings" in its output. It is mentioned in (info "(emacs) Misc Help") btw lots of chapters before the one you cited. Have you tried C-h b? What kind of information do you miss? > Am I too exacting or is something missing in the manual? The chapter you cite is more of a kind that describes the underlying concepts. But I think I agree that it's kind of unsatisfactory to read that when you don't know how to "look" at the map at this point. Maybe a link to (info "(emacs) Misc Help") could be added in (info "(emacs) Key Bindings"). BTW there is no end user command (though it's easy to write one) that shows the bindings of exactly one map. The reason is probably that all keymaps in effect are always merged to get a list of bindings, keymaps with higher priority shadow bindings in keymaps with low priority (the global-map has a low priority btw), so there is only a command that shows all bindings currently in effect combined - namely C-h b. Regards, Michael.