From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus question Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:12:02 +0100 Message-ID: <878u3cb1fh.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87oac9dyud.fsf@posteo.net> <8737tkkjf9.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453835568 14789 80.91.229.3 (26 Jan 2016 19:12:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:12:48 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 26 20:12:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aO92b-0005xz-7l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:12:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46283 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO92a-0002DR-G2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:12:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39511) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO92K-0002AG-69 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:12:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO92F-00048d-Vi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:12:20 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46249) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aO92F-00048X-Ob for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:12:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aO92E-0005m2-0K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:12:14 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-227.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:12:13 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-227.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:12:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-227.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CKIRzLSZnDFb622D9B9BfA4uRNo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108872 Archived-At: Óscar Fuentes writes: > Others suggested gmane, but my experience is that > posts to gmane.emacs.gnus.user are ignored. > So you'll better use the gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup. Gmane is more reliable, and more to the point, than "old Usenet", in my experience. One example is the tons of inactive and wierd.yada-yada.kamikazee groups with zero posts that are everywhere on the Usenet nntp.aioe.org server. You don't have to wade thru them with Gmane! OK: gmane.emacs.gnus.user and gnu.emacs.gnus are virtually the same in terms of information (or should be the same) but in terms of technology gmane.emacs.gnus.user is a mailing-list-turn-into-a-newsgroup by means of Gmane, while gnu.emacs.gnus is a Usenet newsgroup with a gateway in between to synch with the mailing list! You get gnu.emacs.gnus from a Usenet server, e.g. nntp.aioe.org while you get gmane.emacs.gnus.user from a Gmane server, e.g. news.gmane.org! I heard they asked Simon Furman once if he prefered Goldbug or Bumblebee. He said, "I prefer Bumblebee - as Goldbug!" Do I prefer Usenet or Gmane? I prefer Usenet - as Gmane! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573