From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:12:14 +0100 Message-ID: <878rttvmtt.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tucl18rp.fsf@zoho.eu> <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz> <87ee3p17tx.fsf@zoho.eu> <87zgmauhq3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <875yoyymr8.fsf@zoho.eu> <87k0ddvofo.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Reply-To: Uwe Brauer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1712"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Uwe Brauer , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: goncholden Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 01 14:16:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nP2MW-0000E9-Ch for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:16:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47940 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP2MU-0008Dw-9Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 08:16:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50564) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP2Il-000749-8r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 08:12:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:1450:4864:20::430] (port=40691 helo=mail-wr1-x430.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP2Ij-0007og-FV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 08:12:26 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id n14so20421927wrq.7 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 05:12:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mat.ucm.es; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=+iZwVn0yuCt7zHjZfh+Ra90xmevxV7pK9eCZVzZViY8=; b=L1C5InaPb8PTWe2jXcvpTAYXKLdSl92xOT5m88X5MZT7eN6LzDMxZMjtYRvZKMFUfO 1I/kltr+UhO4ufBVMdJ01VSfOpjDkNrvxZAotOTj9+V4yO/zRExNNuTo/mqOYl0NxsEy p6xsGPPmqukm0F1xDRJKM8op4Pyy4Ih3GXa8g= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:date :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=+iZwVn0yuCt7zHjZfh+Ra90xmevxV7pK9eCZVzZViY8=; b=av+wH7QRB5wJB2QsufJ0mchQ92fdDHX1i9gbLTsCVNvoww2L/FwuIUanHsgB07/L5d u4jiMypjJ01ahx3SSb9lWCZ8lpbDvIizu9FKpIBJQmSR3YSRJVTgSImjvGdVD/e5x3nP rVdmad+qyLNQlXdLcyRHUfBnuVL+Ikai5BXgUrup30cjMSGyMfOjZrPDP2dHLM2Z/Koj Ve9qVrPsp7SmZ/wYw++ZGcCmP/iN9PfsKCVAP+d8TxT1mIkhyIpr1u70EBMsns62Vhre g1J4X3qhbs9yk8UFtlX55C27/JRsiNSPUR2kgvk81LHU4WvRBhhvun/EuFEEcVk6IOJk T7pA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530yY1KQbiO/kornGHao8gem0z31LQZZuAq0cxtk+Fkpr5hJ+XN3 Byg+RkNGlIYxZfcxC1Yfen2Nlg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxUxVrN16ipKvaJLAOj2qxqZfhk+upISHlW3FFYCuY1+RnnoMMFeQGjukcgouuowzEFCrTXDg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1c01:b0:1ef:95c5:4dd6 with SMTP id ba1-20020a0560001c0100b001ef95c54dd6mr10169885wrb.671.1646140339754; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 05:12:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Utnapischtim (gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es. [147.96.12.99]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u9-20020a05600c19c900b0037c050d73dcsm2823396wmq.46.2022.03.01.05.12.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Mar 2022 05:12:18 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: emacs 29.0.50 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) X-Hashcash: 1:20:220301:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::NsSKguOxskEkSR72:0000000000000000000000000000000000000002QDu X-Hashcash: 1:20:220301:oub@mat.ucm.es::syycna7hO8ppYkmT:0003JDu X-Hashcash: 1:20:220301:goncholden@protonmail.com::IDcdAogrTa2DRccw:0000000000000000000000000000000000004nLl X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::430 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::430; envelope-from=oub@ucm.es; helo=mail-wr1-x430.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -5 X-Spam_score: -0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.659, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136306 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > ------- Original Message ------- > On Wednesday, March 2nd, 2022 at 12:37 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote: > Many russians I know simply go on with their business without angering > the state. Like many of us here not wanting to anger our employers. > Putin just organised it to a disastrous result. 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