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[93.33.185.225]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qx8-20020a170906fcc800b0073075451398sm7509725ejb.17.2022.08.17.15.25.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 17 Aug 2022 15:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52c; envelope-from=alessandro.bertulli96@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138911 Archived-At: Hi all! I reckon this message may start a flame but that's not my intention, I'm looking to hear your advice (especially, but not limited, if you work in/with academia) I'm currently writing my MS's thesis. Searching for the state of the art of my assigned technology, I am struggling to read and reason about some old papers from ACM and IEEE (pre-2000, scanned, with no index). I am currently switching back and forth between Sioyek and Evince to read my pdfs, while taking notes in Org mode. I wonder wether I should switch to using pdf-tools (potentially with the integration of org-noter). So, my point is: can pdf-tools, in your opinion, work with old pdf files, or it's just a limitation of the file type? If you know Sioyek, how do you integrate it with Emacs? Is it worth doing so? Or Sioyek is clearly better/worse than Emacs *for an academic workflow*? Would you suggest something like Logseq? P.S. note: Sioyek aims to reconstruct hyperlinks to references and equations in text even for old papers. That's awesome and very useful, but unfortunately it seems to depend on the quality of the file, as sometimes it doesn't work. Here my need for a replacement. Thanks! Bertulli