From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Rmail tips Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:29:19 +0000 Message-ID: <878r3shgdc.fsf@yandex.com> References: <87cyt5h28o.fsf@yandex.com> <87zfw8vlxt.fsf@benghancock.com> Reply-To: m43cap@yandex.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2168"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: fernandodemorais.jf@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ben Hancock Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 10 09:30:04 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rYikO-0000Op-5l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:30:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYijs-0003Oo-Ag; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 03:29:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYijq-0003OK-1u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 03:29:30 -0500 Original-Received: from forward500a.mail.yandex.net ([178.154.239.80]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYijn-0006xe-Ew for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 03:29:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net (mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c18:3d80:0:640:1395:0]) by forward500a.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPS id 29F4F6106D; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 11:29:22 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: by mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id JTf6aL6sBeA0-PqfZtN9Q; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 11:29:21 +0300 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1707553761; bh=kEq5IN6lEas3rasLOPINNyAtUg56CpUDO0vPbjGHB5w=; h=Message-ID:References:Date:Reply-To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; b=EQMi7LTeUs9NS9X0MuzCYeqd4wZsHildNpMtnTeZgj27blHeA4/u8HGDLTjuK2Q3D bMhuvndqY7TfgdOyulajBg70ABFyDQhUr6cJLxms9o37PjLtBaA2268H9nfCbj9uTz DJviw7knShqAcKdsLym/FymQ/6jsSSo+yo7sM2PU= Authentication-Results: mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com In-Reply-To: <87zfw8vlxt.fsf@benghancock.com> (Ben Hancock's message of "Fri, 09 Feb 2024 23:05:18 -0800") X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.154.239.80; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward500a.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145899 Archived-At: >>>>> Ben Hancock writes: > Colin Baxter writes: >> I filter incoming mail by means of procmail and then read the >> mailboxes using "rmail-input". This might be too simple for what >> you want, of course. > This seems like a fine approach and I've tried a similar setup; my > issue was that new messages in these inboxes weren't treated as > "unseen" by rmail, so it was hard to distinguish new mail. I was going to write "no, I don't have that problem", but then I thought that perhaps I do see the same as you except I don't think of it as an issue. I don't know if it's possible in rmail to "flag" an email as unread. There is a variable "rmail-unseen-attr-index" with a default value of 6. Maybe it's possible to use that, but I've never tried. In procmail, you can set a log file and have that displayed in gnus. That way, you can see immediately what email is unread. You will need promaillog.el from . I use fetchmail first to bring emails from various external servers. However, I use fetchmail manually from a shell and so I am able to see what new emails I have received. I don't fetch emails automatically. I read the "rmail-file-name" first and then M-x rmail-input to navigate to files that I know have new email. All the files are listed with the latest email in view at the top, and indeed they are not distinguished by whether they have been previously read or unread. Best wishes, Colin.