From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: failing creating multiple indirect org buffers . Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2024 02:07:20 +0100 Message-ID: <878r30xgvr.fsf@web.de> References: <20240301094752.3918b636@enoush2o> <86ttlqqs26.fsf@gnu.org> <20240301104731.30dcadd1@enoush2o> <86msrhoz1b.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Michael Heerdegen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:/C/RZNV/q2Jx+gKGuMHrskhigTA= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 03 02:07:39 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rgaKJ-000978-5u for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Mar 2024 02:07:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgaJj-0004UY-BL; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 20:07:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgaJh-0004UG-KI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 20:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgaJg-00072l-9d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 20:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rgaJe-0008QD-6z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Mar 2024 02:06:58 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:146022 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Speaking of Org files i mean that trying to create a CloneB of the > > Base will not have it's own heading's folding but mirrow that of > > the CloneA or Base. > > Isn't that expected? That's what clone-indirect-buffer is about, I > think. Not really: Org headline folding is implemented using overlays carrying an 'invisible' overlay property. So folding could work in indirect clones independently - because overlays are not shared. But I am exactly seeing this, actually. Folding in all indirect clones works independently for me, even when there are more than 2 clones. And even if I clone a clone. In emacs -Q. Such things don't work reliably always, however. For example, when anything relies on text properties, which are shared, things break. So whether things like this work as expected often depends on implementation details that don't matter in any other situation (and what the user expects). Using indirect clones is always an a bit fragile matter in my experience. Michael.