From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hansen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Arrowless navigation Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:22:25 +0200 Organization: disorganized Message-ID: <877izx5e3y.fsf@robotron.kosmorama> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1158860275 23940 80.91.229.2 (21 Sep 2006 17:37:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 21 19:37:46 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GQSQ2-0006n7-Po for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:33:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GQSQ1-0003WJ-W8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GQSPn-0003P3-RB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:32:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GQSPl-0003Et-2v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:32:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GQSPl-0003Ec-0L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:32:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GQSTJ-0000zX-DQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:36:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GQSLx-0005UB-Vl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:28:49 +0200 Original-Received: from e178024082.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.24.82]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:28:49 +0200 Original-Received: from david.hansen by e178024082.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:28:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178024082.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:v6UAT/18gTnq3vgLapV7bhJMk9Q= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37546 Archived-At: On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:17:44 -0400 Vyacheslav Akhmechet wrote: > I recently disabled the arrow keys to avoid temptation. However, I > find that default navigation is fairly uncomfortable: C-f, C-b, C-n, > C-p. The keys are far away from each other and navigating like that is > really stressful on the fingers. Why is this done this way? > > Do most people redefine these bindings? Initially I wanted to redefine > to C-j, C-k, C-l and C-i (because they resemble the arrow keys and are > close to the home row) but some of the most common emacs bindings are > there. So how do the pros navigate? I use C-f and friends. I'm so used to it... But if you like to have some other cursor movement commands w/o overwriting important emacs key bindings you can either use these windows keys as a modifier or do some key mapping magics with xmodmap. A quite common setup is to use CapsLock as the control key and the left control key as another modifier. David