From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brendan Halpin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Suppressing load messages Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:54:45 +0000 Message-ID: <877ig6imy2.fsf@wivenhoe.staff8.ul.ie> References: <87tzjo3asi.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87y78p2c4h.fsf@wivenhoe.staff8.ul.ie> <87pru0rmai.fsf@wivenhoe.staff8.ul.ie> <87hcfbsvdt.fsf@wivenhoe.staff8.ul.ie> <871w6fmuyk.fsf@wivenhoe.staff8.ul.ie> Reply-To: brendan.halpin@ul.ie NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205430057 13789 80.91.229.12 (13 Mar 2008 17:40:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:40:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 13 18:41:24 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZrQW-0003DP-E9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:41:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZrPx-0004HY-DA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:40:37 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Trace: individual.net vQnKq9yZL39SqETDo5c3EAYKy2aWPaUuvzgRONO17Hfj6exVV4 Cancel-Lock: sha1:FK+dN+mN/K4Tf0yocNn9yZE2G9M= sha1:WGDD/nhUa1pEJT4ttB2hjd/V9y8= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:157003 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52372 Archived-At: jadamson@partners.org (Joel J. Adamson) writes: > Brendan Halpin writes: > >> jadamson@partners.org (Joel J. Adamson) writes: >> >>> If you want behavior like Perl or Python (output to STDOUT), then you >>> should figure out a way to divert STDERR from inside Emacs. I tried >> >> That's not necessary, since the print family of commands will write to >> STDOUT, and it is useful to be able to use message to write to STDERR. > > Huh? Then what do you want? Do you want to see only STDOUT on the > screen? Do you want to capture it in a file? I think we're talking at cross purposes. What I'm moaning about is that there is that even with "--script" there is a lot of unnecessary loading going on, with the most visible effect of lots of chatter on STDERR. Simply, that makes Emacs less useful for writing little self-executable shell utilities. What would be nice would be to be able to write hash-bang utilities in Emacs that behave like any other, with output going to STDOUT and errors/warnings going to STDERR. We're not quite there yet but it shouldn't be impossible. Maybe I should talk to the emacs-devel list. Brendan -- Brendan Halpin, Department of Sociology, University of Limerick, Ireland Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F2-025 x 3147 mailto:brendan.halpin@ul.ie http://www.ul.ie/sociology/brendan.halpin.html