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From: Brendan Halpin <brendan.halpin@ul.ie>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Suppressing load messages
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:54:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877ig6imy2.fsf@wivenhoe.staff8.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.8845.1205424297.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

jadamson@partners.org (Joel J. Adamson) writes:

> Brendan Halpin <brendan.halpin@ul.ie> writes:
>
>> jadamson@partners.org (Joel J. Adamson) writes:
>>
>>> If you want behavior like Perl or Python (output to STDOUT), then you
>>> should figure out a way to divert STDERR from inside Emacs.  I tried 
>>
>> That's not necessary, since the print family of commands will write to
>> STDOUT, and it is useful to be able to use message to write to STDERR. 
>
> Huh?  Then what do you want?  Do you want to see only STDOUT on the
> screen?  Do you want to capture it in a file?

I think we're talking at cross purposes. What I'm moaning about is that
there is that even with "--script" there is a lot of unnecessary loading
going on, with the most visible effect of lots of chatter on STDERR.
Simply, that makes Emacs less useful for writing little self-executable
shell utilities. 

What would be nice would be to be able to write hash-bang utilities in
Emacs that behave like any other, with output going to STDOUT and
errors/warnings going to STDERR. We're not quite there yet but it
shouldn't be impossible. Maybe I should talk to the emacs-devel list.

Brendan
-- 
Brendan Halpin,  Department of Sociology,  University of Limerick,  Ireland
Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F2-025 x 3147
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-13 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.8180.1204483870.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-03  0:34 ` batch mode Pascal Bourguignon
2008-03-03  9:36   ` Sebastian Tennant
     [not found]   ` <mailman.8214.1204537035.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-11 21:18     ` Brendan Halpin
2008-03-12 14:50       ` Suppressing load messages (was: batch mode) Joel J. Adamson
     [not found]       ` <mailman.8762.1205333492.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-12 15:31         ` Suppressing load messages Brendan Halpin
2008-03-12 15:58           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-12 16:59           ` Joel J. Adamson
     [not found]           ` <mailman.8775.1205341175.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-12 17:30             ` Brendan Halpin
2008-03-12 17:56               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-12 18:52               ` Joel J. Adamson
     [not found]               ` <mailman.8782.1205347999.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-12 22:35                 ` Brendan Halpin
2008-03-13 16:04                   ` Joel J. Adamson
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.8845.1205424297.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-13 16:54                     ` Brendan Halpin [this message]
2008-03-13 18:01                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]           ` <mailman.8771.1205337534.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-12 17:53             ` Brendan Halpin
2008-03-12 18:03               ` Exal de Jesus Garcia Carrillo
2008-03-12 18:35                 ` Brendan Halpin
2008-03-12 18:47                   ` Exal de Jesus Garcia Carrillo
2008-03-12 22:03               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-12 23:32               ` Glenn Morris
2008-03-12 23:37                 ` Glenn Morris
2008-03-13  3:09                   ` Glenn Morris
2008-03-13  1:31                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-13  3:42                 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-31  2:34                   ` David Combs
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.8816.1205371922.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-13  9:00                   ` Brendan Halpin

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