From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 07:38:55 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <877gjevvdc.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367732421 13429 80.91.229.3 (5 May 2013 05:40:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 05:40:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 05 07:40:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYrgL-0002hm-TW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 07:40:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48753 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYrgL-0003ge-IL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 01:40:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYrg8-0003dt-HV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 01:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYrg7-0000DN-GL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 01:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:57746) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYrg7-0000D0-9g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 01:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYrg3-0002Yl-TT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 07:40:03 +0200 Original-Received: from amontsouris-651-1-14-160.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr ([90.46.105.160]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2013 07:40:03 +0200 Original-Received: from pjb by amontsouris-651-1-14-160.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2013 07:40:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: amontsouris-651-1-14-160.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NjdmMzczMDE5ZmE1NDA3Y2I2OGQ0ZTIxMjlmMWE0OGFmODllN2RjOA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90506 Archived-At: Steven Degutis writes: > I'm so tired of how Emacs so desperately clings onto the 80s and 90s. > > So many of its defaults are idiotic, so many legacy features it tries > to support are just terrible and useless. > > I often wish there was a modern emacs clone that dropped all these > legacy features. git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git any git clone is a fork! > Who ever uses a toolbar? I never do. > Why don't the scrollbars work like normal? I never use them. > Why is the undo feature so ridiculous, instead of something more sane > like undo-tree? There's git for that. Seriously, who needs more than two undoes? > Why isn't ido-mode enabled by default, and why doesn't it work on more > completable prompts without a third party plugin? ido-mode is unbearable, I don't use it. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.