From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john@ankarstrom.se (John =?utf-8?Q?Ankarstr=C3=B6m?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using "Emacs Configure" **and** modifying .emacs Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:24:31 +0200 Message-ID: <877ey8k8c0.fsf@ankarstrom.se> References: <1502373086.1171866.1069247696.71F9FED4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <0c6d8dc0-2308-4d80-b8b4-dc3f9cf7022a@default> <861sojuzpy.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502558702 20890 195.159.176.226 (12 Aug 2017 17:25:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 17:25:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 12 19:24:55 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dga9c-0004n7-CV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:24:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42467 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dga9i-0002tf-Hu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:24:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49657) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dga97-0002si-E2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:24:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dga94-00023v-6c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:24:21 -0400 Original-Received: from pusjkin.ankarstrom.se ([2a01:7e01::f03c:91ff:fed5:73aa]:33692) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dga93-00023f-Vz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-linux (c83-252-75-131.bredband.comhem.se [83.252.75.131]) by pusjkin.ankarstrom.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 909A03F4E9 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:24:14 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ankarstrom.se; s=default; t=1502558654; bh=Al0D7menOJNd3t1uGaSTMkIIeTFod/1YVUWbnHt3SMI=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=MdCOxdrXFZdKKEfDYkiXxjhXL9CdmL/rmDPuOoHmazlZ1N7091F1vvIRC4UvFOrxW li+7UQrkfwGY+OLegxEELT/MQ+bdiczl+3ThKvnlvcqa3qwNsbY2ef/6qHIC99N/h3 y70A4TilBv79WHDcSpleD+VofesZIVq+Z2MrY1l4= In-Reply-To: <861sojuzpy.fsf@zoho.com> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:58:17 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a01:7e01::f03c:91ff:fed5:73aa X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114015 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > (IMO, *no one* should use Customize, an even > better way to keep Customize away from their > init files.) I'll agree that the interface of Customize is a bit clunky, but it's a good way to learn what values are available for each option. I don't think it's good to teach newcomers that `setq' is better, because many user options depend on custom setters that aren't fired by a simple `setq'. Customize is more portable and works with everything. - John