From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Nordin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2019 15:37:20 +0200 Message-ID: <877e9uq3qn.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <87pnnn4z11.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="261778"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Robert Thorpe , Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 09 15:37:41 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZy0y-0015vx-V1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 15:37:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZy0x-0002Hb-BJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 09:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZy0m-0002HU-PJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 09:37:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZy0l-0007d8-DS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 09:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:44009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZy0k-0007bu-Vi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 09:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB25B2400FD for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2019 15:37:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1560087443; bh=5ayObJ1ia1EIaqsicgQJ5R3gZhiod8WBhVZtURXAfH4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=pQVPpLwQ1zkmExDfTT7tHrZeVG9b5Euv8WtOilIQio5tojnddjOo7byWov/TMm+P9 HDgGOizJH5tATFfqAZD0bkZXVJSK1ZXNYrX7XSZixppmq9aSKlU6eVOUyve8fIbAi5 M8t/L5Eo8r6JyEYYCUqSr9MRwnPPSQ+djotXMPZ5hTzT/K4G+2hPE7NorYmivHCTCJ 5HCrNe0cgHlJ8egL7P754C7eJqrS7wlZnFqphPawBvsN+7YIBur9AXBgg4HF1spdGV +J76rBIgJ5Qkrp9LxVrCA0fNDNG4u/Z8oPECRaUSsYk1pyDvyM7Pbs8JQiDNS+ilAO 6RZ+ycX4kQYew== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 45MHPY3hRjz9rxK; Sun, 9 Jun 2019 15:37:21 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87pnnn4z11.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 185.67.36.66 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120869 Archived-At: Robert Thorpe writes: > Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs writes: > >> Robert Thorpe wrote: >> >>> I think is mainly because of the way you use >>> this mailing list. >>> >>> You seem to think of it as something more >>> than a help mailing list. I think lots of >>> other people think of it strictly as >>> a help list. >>> >>> I expect that some of your mails would work >>> better elsewhere. Perhaps on a blog or >>> on Reddit. >> >> Had I known there was no computer culture >> whatsoever I would never have done any of this >> to begin with. >> >> Taking pride in elitist one-dimensionalness and >> the prevailing notion that computer people >> should themselves be and act as computers - >> it is _in-human_. >> >> Or wait... maybe it isn't elitism or even >> a notion... maybe people really *are* like >> that? Now had I known _that_, not only would >> I never have done any of this, I would have >> turned and run as fast as I possibly could, >> without ever looking back! > > What I'm saying here is about context. > > I have nothing against computer culture. I think it's fairly > interesting, and I sometimes talk about it too. > > The point is though, it's not what *this list* is about. This list is > much more focused on help, as it says in the name. There are other > forums that are much more loose. > > Take Reddit, for example. Lots of your more off-the-wall mails would be > appreciated on Emacs Reddit. That's because it's not a forum focused on > help. By posting off-the-wall stuff here you're irritating others and > also needlessly frustrating yourself. No irritation observed over here. On the contrary, without the rantings of Emanuel this list would be OK, but not at all as interesting as it is with it. Even with some irretation, makes the list more alive. Best regards -- Tomas