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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Calling a function with undefined symbol
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2022 17:40:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877d0d8g3e.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: lzzgd9l9gr.fsf@3c22fb11fdab.ant.amazon.com

Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org> writes:

> >   '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''...
>
> i.e.,
>
> (defconst x #1=(quote #1#))
>
> right?

Yep.  Or #1='#1#.  What strange things we can have in Elisp!

> > i.e. a value that is a quoted thing where the thing is the same value
> > again (such a value exists in Elisp!) - what would evaluating
> >
> >   (eq 'x x)
> >   (equal 'x x)
>
> nil: you are comparing a symbol 'x' with a circular list
> (quote (quote ...))
>
> what you probably meant was [...]

No, I really meant what I wrote.  It was intended as that simple
question.

Symbols are values in Elisp, expressions can eval to symbols.  That's
what Stefan was talking about.

The exercise's goal was to recognize that `'x` evals to a symbol, which
is something entirely different than adding another quote to that
strange `'''....` value (which is not a symbol in any case).  If you
have understood that the first value is a symbol, it's easy to give the
intended answers: two times "no".

Michael.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-02 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-31  8:15 Calling a function with undefined symbol Heime
2022-10-31  8:32 ` Jean Abou Samra
2022-10-31  8:42 ` tomas
2022-10-31  8:57   ` Heime
2022-10-31  9:07     ` tomas
2022-10-31  9:24     ` Jean Abou Samra
2022-10-31  9:43       ` Heime
2022-10-31  9:58         ` Jean Abou Samra
2022-10-31 10:57           ` Heime
2022-10-31 17:00           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-31 17:10             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-01  4:11               ` Drew Adams
2022-11-01  5:24               ` tomas
2022-11-01 15:58                 ` Drew Adams
2022-11-01 16:13                   ` tomas
2022-11-01 19:22                     ` Drew Adams
2022-10-31 12:29   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-10-31 15:37     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-02 12:14     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-02 14:25       ` Sam Steingold
2022-11-02 16:40         ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2022-11-02 17:28           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-02 23:04           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-03 11:09             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-03 12:15               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-04 12:16                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-05 14:32                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-05 23:22                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-06 20:17                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-07 16:03                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-07 16:50                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-11-07 16:52                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-08 15:52                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-08 19:15                               ` tomas
2022-11-08 19:57                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-08 20:47                                   ` tomas
2022-11-08 21:35                               ` Sam Steingold
2022-11-08 23:53                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-09 15:32                                   ` Sam Steingold
2022-11-09 15:59                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-16 19:07                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-16 21:40                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-11-16 21:55                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-04 14:33                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-05 12:57                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-31 11:34 ` Emanuel Berg

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