From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Anselm Helbig Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ERC or TNT Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:13:20 +0100 Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <8764mluqlb.wl@nospam.anselm.chemie.fu-berlin.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1142079332 13975 80.91.229.2 (11 Mar 2006 12:15:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 11 13:15:28 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FI30I-0000eW-9y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:15:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FI30H-0005ke-Cj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:15:25 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de MwycPQN0/RtllI7upOnMIQQvyjuCpOpb0CtdptEAJbMvTg0EnvVTRLmHin In-Reply-To: Mail-Followup-To: anselm@chemie.fu-berlin.de User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.11.30 (Wonderwall) Emacs/21.4 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:138095 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:33718 Archived-At: At Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:38:45 +0000, op132650c@mail.telepac.pt wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > What is the difference between an IRC and an Instant Messaging? They don't do > the same thing? > > I can't configure "ERC - Emacs IRC Chat" or "AOL TNT AIM for emacs" to work with > the server messenger.hotmail.com:1863. How can i solve this problem? > > The messengers server that AOL, Google, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc, uses the same > communication protocol? Or each referred messengers is incompatible with the > others? AOL and ICQ use oscar, Google is said to use the jabber protocol, MSN messenger and Yahoo use their own protocols. IRC is actually a beast of its own, and predates all of these. If more than one of these networks is of importance to you, and you really want to have your chat client inside emacs, then you really should consider the combination of bitlbee + some emacs irc client (like erc, rcirc or circe). These IM-protocols are under constant change, and there are not so many open source projects that keep track of that. IRC on the other hand is an internet standard, so any old IRC-client will connect you to bitlbee. If you just want a console multi-protocol im-client, maybe CenterICQ suits your needs. I just tried TNT, and it didn't connect me, either. I didn't take the time to debug that thoroughly. If you're on XEmacs, maybe eICQ works for you (ICQ uses the same protocol as AIM), but bitlbee would be in any case the most general solution. regards, Anselm