From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: All widgets except the scroll bar uses GTK? Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:12:06 +0900 Message-ID: <8764fzzmeh.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <1157191803.574419.81400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <85mz9iwkk7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157645628 29530 80.91.229.2 (7 Sep 2006 16:13:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 07 18:13:47 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMVW-0006MF-Cq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:13:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMVV-0000Cv-PB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:13:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMU8-0005t9-3q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMU7-0005rS-8i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLMU7-0005qJ-13 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [203.216.5.72] (helo=smtp02.dentaku.gol.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GLMUU-0003pB-T6; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:12:35 -0400 Original-Received: from 203-216-98-149.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.98.149] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1GLMU2-0007Fq-Tz; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:12:07 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 762B02F4D; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:12:06 +0900 (JST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Dieter Wilhelm's message of "Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:03:56 +0200") Original-Lines: 31 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37212 Archived-At: Dieter Wilhelm writes: > Maybe I only know GTK scroll bars (under Emacs), could you please > explain how to switch between the directions without moving the mouse? Right-click click scrolls forward, left-click scrolls backward. The middle button usually is used for handle dragging etc. Clicks work anywhere in the scrollbar, not only in the "trough" areas; the direction to scroll is determined soley by which button you pick. >> you can't scroll through a complete file without needing to reseat the >> mouse in between, you can't control the scroll amount). > > You mean that one can more precisely control the amount of scrolling > with respect to how far on clicks away from the tool bar handle? No, because L/R clicking totally ignores the "handle" position; it uses the distance from the top of the scrollbar to determine the amount to scroll. In some implementations (I don't know if Emacs is one) scrolling autorepeats if you hold down the button, and you can vary the scroll speed in real time just by moving the mouse up and down in the scrollbar. It's a _lot_ more ergonomic, and much more precise, than the mac/windows method of scrolling once you get used to it, though I guess it's not well suited to a one-button mouse... :-) -Miles -- I'm beginning to think that life is just one long Yoko Ono album; no rhyme or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over. --Ian Wolff