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Sure -- TAKE one!! Did you BUY any COMMUNIST UNIFORMS?? In-Reply-To: (don provan's message of "Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:13:57 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:49127 Archived-At: don provan wrote: > To this day, I occasionally find myself running emacs on systems or > over communications paths where the META key doesn't work, so I have > to fall back to ESC-] or whatever. Am I the only one that still > encounters such klunky environments? Or am I just the only one old > enough to think about using ESC because I grew up with it as the only > option? I didn't grow up with it as the only option (I started using Emacs a couple of years ago), but it has on occasion come in handy--for example, on my school's Macs (which are the closest thing they have to a usable computer) they do have Emacs installed--but it's version 21.3 (not even 21.4!), with no graphical support, and there's no working ALT/META key, so I have to settle for ESC. As a rule, I just try not to use the school computers. So no, you're not the only one who finds ESC useful on occasion :-). Amy -- I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.