From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: those funny non-ASCII characters Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:46:25 +0200 Message-ID: <8762bcaury.fsf@gnuvola.org> References: <87ehq0bz0z.fsf@gnuvola.org> <87aa0ob8y3.fsf@gnuvola.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338500741 3713 80.91.229.3 (31 May 2012 21:45:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 21:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Buchs\, Kevin" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 31 23:45:40 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDBZ-0002iA-8Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:45:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDBZ-0000NH-2R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:45:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39135) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDBT-0000N9-9n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:45:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDBR-0002aX-BA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:45:30 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp205.alice.it ([82.57.200.101]:44860) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDBR-0002aR-0B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 17:45:29 -0400 Original-Received: from ambire (79.51.121.113) by smtp205.alice.it (8.6.023.02) id 4F421F7B0B8DF17F; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDCM-0007W8-9Z; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:46:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Kevin Buchs's message of "Thu, 31 May 2012 11:56:45 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.101 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85067 Archived-At: () "Buchs, Kevin" () Thu, 31 May 2012 11:56:45 -0500 [...] once water flows up over a dam, it is going downstream and has passed the reservoir behind the dam and presumably passed your field of view. In this specific instance [...] OK, thanks. Now i understand. I could have applied the analogy of "water over the dam" even further to say that: "though there were many messages posted on this list that are now water over the dam, I would like to bring my message back to allow it to float to the top again." The flow of messages is indeed like water. I suppose everyone relates to this in their own way. Using GNUS (now Gnus) to read these, i imagine myself an insect buzzing around an upward turned flow (a geiser), first in summer when the molecules dissociate quickly, then (later, always later) in winter when they crystalize shard-like and treed, sometimes under a brilliant sun refracted as rainbows, sometimes under a brilliant moon that ghostly glows, sometimes in darkness lit only by lucky grep rows. A drip gleaned here and there for sustenance, a drop left there and here for assonance, the rest left to what entropy can penetrate the disks of gmane. Anyway, Unicode is ASCII-compatible, so probably if you wrangle your environment to Unicode by default, Emacs will also DTRT. Check out . Yes, it does touch upon topics best avoided in polite company, but oh well...