* special characters for abbrev
@ 2013-07-03 13:39 Muhali
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From: Muhali @ 2013-07-03 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I am sure that in a previous (not so old) emacs version I could use the '`'
character for abbreviations, e.g. `fu for function.
With the current emacs (24.3) this is no longer possible, and I am not able
to find anything in the help.
What am I missing?
M.
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2013-07-03 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Muhali <muhali@users.sf.net> writes:
> I am sure that in a previous (not so old) Emacs version I could
> use the '`' character for abbreviations, e.g. `fu for function.
> With the current Emacs (24.3) this is no longer possible, and I
> am not able to find anything in the help.
This has to do with the definition of a word. Place point after
'u' in `fu - then, hit M-b. See, you don't get past the '`'.
I asked about this a while back; you might benefit from the
answer.
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/71101
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From: Muhali @ 2013-07-04 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> This has to do with the definition of a word.
Thanks. But when and where was the change, since it used to work before?
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2013-07-04 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Muhali <muhali@users.sf.net> writes:
> Thanks. But when and where was the change, since it used to work
> before?
I don't know. But: Why does it matter? Are you going to revert to
a legacy Emacs version just to expand `fu into function?
If you really want it, possibly you can change the definition of a
word - perhaps sensibly, only for the specific mode, in which you
need it, not to cause unnecessary havoc. But I'd advice against
this. Again, read the material I sent you last time (if you didn't
already).
Why is it so important with `fu? Why can't you make it xfu or
whatever?
Just sayin'.
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2013-07-04 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Muhali <muhali@users.sf.net> writes:
> Thanks. But when and where was the change, since it used to work
> before?
I don't know. But: Why does it matter? Are you going to revert to
a legacy Emacs version just to expand `fu into function?
If you really want it, possibly you can change the definition of a
word - perhaps sensibly, only for the specific mode, in which you
need it, not to cause unnecessary havoc. But I'd advice against
this. Again, read the material I sent you last time (if you didn't
already).
Why is it so important with `fu? Why can't you make it xfu or
whatever?
Just sayin'.
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2013-07-04 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Muhali <muhali@users.sf.net> writes:
> Thanks. But when and where was the change, since it used to work
> before?
I don't know. But: Why does it matter? Are you going to revert to
a legacy Emacs version just to expand `fu into function?
If you really want it, possibly you can change the definition of a
word - perhaps sensibly, only for the specific mode, in which you
need it, not to cause unnecessary havoc. But I'd advice against
this. Again, read the material I sent you last time (if you didn't
already).
Why is it so important with `fu? Why can't you make it xfu or
whatever?
Just sayin'.
--
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computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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* Re: special characters for abbrev
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From: Muhali @ 2013-07-04 11:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Why is it so important with `fu? Why can't you make it xfu or whatever?
I can definitely live with the change, and it is probably for the better. I
just wanted to know whether this is due to emacs or me changing something.
M.
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2013-07-04 11:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Muhali <muhali@users.sf.net> writes:
> I can definitely live with the change, and it is probably for
> the better. I just wanted to know whether this is due to Emacs
> or me changing something.
In cases such like that, start Emacs with - I guess -Q is
sufficient - and see if it is still the same. From the man page:
-q, --no-init-file
Do not load an init file.
--no-site-file
Do not load the site-wide startup file.
-Q, --quick
Similar to "-q --no-site-file --no-splash".
Also, avoid processing X resources.
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