From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A package in a league of its own: Helm Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:28:05 +0200 Message-ID: <8761h79roa.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <787f8d86-dede-4627-b4e5-3658a1833455@googlegroups.com> <73520ac0-9fc0-42ce-8a15-cc400b6f8308@googlegroups.com> <672a0d66-bc48-4b7a-9279-c7d631a03f79@googlegroups.com> <871trvjpnx.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <0e52cfc6-d6ed-4b45-bbd3-2cdd13fcc91b@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409592532 15997 80.91.229.3 (1 Sep 2014 17:28:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 17:28:52 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 01 19:28:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XOVPI-0002dE-Vi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:28:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOVPI-0005wy-J2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:28:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOVP0-0005wd-NE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOVOt-0003fM-7R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:28:26 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOVOt-0003fH-0V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:28:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XOVOr-0002ND-Ll for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:28:17 +0200 Original-Received: from 18.red-83-41-63.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.41.63.18]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:28:17 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 18.red-83-41-63.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:28:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 18.red-83-41-63.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TN5dTyBRqPfVqYfBQeDTp4c+XqM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99568 Archived-At: "Tu, Do" writes: Some corrections follow. > - It has fuzzy matching by default. You have to install flx to get > fuzzy matching in ido. ido has fuzzy matching (and regexp matching) built-in. IIRC, you can switch to any of the match algorithms on the fly. flx is an external package witn a plug-in for ido that does fuzzy matching on steroids. > - Depends on what file type your highlighting candidate is, Helm opens > it appropriately. For example, if you RET on a directory, Helm opens > dired; if you RET on a file, Helm opens that file. You can also > customize the application to open the files. Stock find-file at least > can open directory; Ido simply can't. With ido's find-file you can press C-d to start dired any time. You can also kill a file. > - Helm is compatible with both Linux and Windows path. Ido can't; you > have to drop into stock find-file. That's not correct. Ido works fine on Windows. Ido is not as rich as Helm by a long shot, but it is not as poor as you seem to think either. In my opinion, one fundamental difference among ido and helm is that ido is a component for doing one task (being a replacement for Emacs' completing system, with a few context-dependent extra features like killing a file while on find-file, etc.) while helm is a replacement of a large chunk of Emacs' non-text-editing UI. Is like comparing a shovel with a tractor.