From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to reload an updated library? Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:22:02 -0500 Message-ID: <8761ak6svp.fsf@gmail.com> References: <871tl8s2pm.fsf@debian.uxu> <87egp86ucb.fsf@gmail.com> <87zj7wqhg0.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1425262944 21490 80.91.229.3 (2 Mar 2015 02:22:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 02:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Alexis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 02 03:22:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFzv-0003AX-6V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 03:22:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54700 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFzu-0002q0-El for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:22:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45743) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFzh-0002pq-Vp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:22:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFzg-0006ob-Jj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231]:33443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFzg-0006oU-Ea for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: by qcxm20 with SMTP id m20so22445563qcx.0 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:22:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=2mmNGKLCuGWJYp4j4DWHADRfqJ55D/9P7eaOqYW6uEE=; b=FvRO3iKETr4FQxq8/Mz9uryYxwqnlBRDBrT0rtXgEv+G9zJ/LnVJfzGzMi4SssfIBJ V/YoCQ1veC6sG6jRZi0OfE2B4iQ7gX8dLHFWMULFej0cCVzF7fzdwKjR13JP+eKd2Qgo 35lFUgkya1MNHR9JiU0ePbhwLdxN0pX0LM4j1DbzsHLogCnbgaOMojjxeuvSHxK3ON+N G8GNK8FXXEseex8lpzOSyH0v752bK++wMMnPkd5oVkLo6f+yGBvB+Tgd5xmXuHMlKn5l f75sQySMHgXkh/yDB8KlN7bwPpdRT78V3w6dCbHEuqTsEJPY5w2lZSWYndYjHxRhDLxc 4FfA== X-Received: by 10.140.40.203 with SMTP id x69mr46020281qgx.15.1425262924053; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:22:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ([2601:0:a640:1577:ee55:f9ff:feb5:5589]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t8sm7519102qga.24.2015.03.01.18.22.03 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:22:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87zj7wqhg0.fsf@gmail.com> (Alexis's message of "Mon, 02 Mar 2015 13:08:47 +1100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102971 Archived-At: You're right; usually I rely on Elpa/MELPA, but I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that even MELPA takes a day to update, hence my use of the git repo. Alexis writes: > On 2015-03-02T12:50:28+1100, Tory S. Anderson said: > > TSA> I've never been quite clear in emacs on the meanings of library, TSA> package, extension... I think I mean package, such as what you TSA> download from `m-x list-packages`: in this case, a whole program TSA> like Helm which includes many .el files. > > In my experience, in the context of Emacs, a 'package' is something that is downloaded from one of the ELPAs (Emacs Lisp Package Archives) - GNU ELPA, MELPA, MELPA-Stable, Marmalade etc. If you're installing Helm by cloning the Git repo and loading it manually, you're actually not making use of the Emacs package system. i would recommend installing Helm from one of the ELPAs, and then using the upgrade functionality of Emacs' package system[1] - when you upgrade a package, it will usually (again, in my experience) get reloaded once the local package has been updated. > > Things that aren't actually available for processing by `package.el` i would refer to as 'extensions' or 'libraries', regardless of how many ELisp source files they include. > > > Alexis. > > [1] E.g. by doing M-x package-list-packages, then typing U to mark all upgradeable packages, then typing x to start the upgrade process.