From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:31:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87613gjot9.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87bndfauey.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87wpw0e58f.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87si6n822t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87twr1pycd.fsf@debian.uxu> <87zj0s5yc8.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87r3m45r7a.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442028332 8782 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2015 03:25:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:25:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 05:25:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZabRK-0002uA-E1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:25:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59355 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZabRJ-0006uO-K3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:25:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59567) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZabR6-0006rZ-V2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:25:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZabR3-0004DT-Rl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZabR3-0004Bi-Jv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZabR1-0002WM-UG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:25:03 +0200 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:25:03 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:25:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5q2fVzKRE1ZTMI6Yer5siLH6YMs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107170 Archived-At: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: > Also, I didn't show the transitivities, but: No > Smalltalk -> no Objective-C -> no NeXTSTEP No Lisp > -> no Interface Builder -> no NeXTSTEP No NeXTSTEP > -> no MacOSX -> no iOS -> no iPad/iPhone. If I ever get my time machine going, first thing after spending a decade in the 90s' Ibiza listening to eurodisco and dropping E, remind me to go back to 1969 and terminate Alan Kay. Or better yet, I can just bring an iPhone and he'll probably grab for the revolver himself! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573