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From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Too fine design granularity leads to numerous macro/function/command existed in Emacs.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:57:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yw94w0e.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAGP6PO+1JOANGUJHo3p-EwUGs_vYp4n7doXvWg+p1dvg4=W0KA@mail.gmail.com

Hongyi Zhao wrote:

> It's well known that Emacs has already implemented numerous
> macro/function/command in its current version. But it seems
> that this is caused by, to a certain degree, the too fine
> granularity, i.e., there are many functionally similar
> macro/function/command are designed separately, for example,
> `directory-files' and `directory-files-recursively'.
> The traditional Unix tool, `find', can do all the jobs of
> the above two functions by adjusting its `-maxdepth' and
> `-mindepth' arguments.

OTOH, you can do _a lot_ with find!

GNU tools have a lot of options, Emacs have a lot of
functions, Linux (and zsh) has a lot of features, Gnus has
a lot of source code...

Try BSD (including toolchain) if you want less :)

Well, no disrespect to the BSD people, many of whom use Emacs.

With the maximalist approach it is unavoidable that
sometimes one function can do 1 2 and 3, and another can do 2,
3, and 4, so it seems they have "too fine granularity" in your
phrasing but outside the intersection is actually ... 1 and 4!

The most important thing is that everything makes sense and
works, if it overlaps, has inconsistent names with respect to
each other, yada yada, I mean try to avoid it but if it
happens it is not a problem, really.

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-13  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-13  7:12 Too fine design granularity leads to numerous macro/function/command existed in Emacs Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-13  7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-14  0:46   ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-14  6:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-14  6:29       ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-14  7:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-14  7:25           ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-14  7:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-13  7:57 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-08-13  8:34   ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-13  8:56     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13  9:20       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13  9:26 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-13 10:11   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 13:00     ` [OFF TOPIC] Algorithms (was: Re: Too fine design granularity leads to numerous macro/function/command existed in Emacs.) 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE
2021-08-13 13:07       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 13:17         ` Yuri Khan
2021-08-13 13:26           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 13:48     ` Too fine design granularity leads to numerous macro/function/command existed in Emacs Arthur Miller
2021-08-13 18:21       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 20:47         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-13 23:42           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14  0:24             ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-14  0:42               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14  1:02                 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-14  2:18                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14  1:46             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-13 23:49         ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-13 23:54           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 14:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-13 14:42     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-13 15:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-13 17:09         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-13 18:16       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 23:40       ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-13 23:45         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 23:57           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-13 23:47         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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