From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Noob dumb question (extending emacs) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 20:08:22 +0200 Message-ID: <875ytnzka1.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <86k0i6uoxd.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <871r4ernmt.fsf@zoho.eu> <87o87hnrpt.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37661"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:yN5m/9JTJOb4SIEZZikTYqf6zvU= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 23 20:09:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meLSV-0009ah-Ft for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 20:09:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59724 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLST-00054i-60 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:09:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLRd-0004yr-Mk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:08:37 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:33540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meLRc-0003C9-0W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 14:08:37 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meLRX-0008NH-7J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 20:08:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134058 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: > Absolutes are not attainable and practically any LISP can > generate passwords just as many other random outcomes. If Linux can do it it should be possible to hook Lisp (Elisp) into that same mechanism and without too much work as well, since the work is already done. > What matters is practicality. Can a program generate > a practical random password? If answer is YES, it is useful. > > For huge majority of users it does not matter neither they > can know that passwords have their seeds or that they are > not truly random. No one is saying stop using Lisp for practical purposes. But doing things the right way is not a slower or more impractical way to do it in the short run - and in the long run, it is much better in that and other respects ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal