From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: NonGNU ELPA Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:38:21 +0100 Message-ID: <875yqcqqia.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87czku1hon.fsf@gnu.org> <87sftpx5ja.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <874k63auq8.fsf@zoho.eu> <87iluh7mrv.fsf@zoho.eu> <87fspgsrk5.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tudwqskl.fsf@zoho.eu> <8735lgwdfp.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5995"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:7Mq5DI9U7orIKFGOKkQDw1hCi9M= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 22 06:41:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nB99V-0001OA-5F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:41:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51518 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nB99T-0007Of-VS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 00:41:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nB96j-0007OJ-Ia for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 00:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:56372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nB96b-0004ff-SI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 00:38:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nB96Z-0008et-UX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:38:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135495 Archived-At: Po Lu wrote: > I don't really understand what you're saying here 1) Think 2) Ask a friend 3) Ask the teacher > but introducing a compile-time option that lets Emacs open > an X display connection to access selections without being > able to create frames would be extremely pointless, since if > you can access selections, you already have everything you > need to create frames. Frames? You mean like web pages had in the 90s? > So the clean solution for accessing X selections is either > to run Emacs under X, or to use something like xclip.el. This must be the cleanest, compile Emacs without X, use xsel.el [1] to communicate from Emacs to X, and from X to Emacs (it is a theoretical possibility not observed in the wild), _and_ from Emacs to the other ttys - without passing X, which still has to run for it to work. Remember the SEGA slogan - "Beat us. If you can" Same then. As now. BTW xclip.el was written by Leo Liu ... I'll CC him. Probably a cool guy. Developer. [1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/xsel.el -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal