From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ole Laursen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Cool and Useful LISP for the .emacs file Date: 08 Nov 2003 15:09:23 +0100 Organization: TDC Totalloesninger Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <874qxfj6jw.fsf@bach.composers> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068300975 874 80.91.224.253 (8 Nov 2003 14:16:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 08 15:16:13 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AITsq-0005x2-00 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:16:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AIUpE-00055L-KY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:16:32 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.165.63.132 Original-X-Trace: 1068300556 dread15.news.tele.dk 29338 131.165.63.132:48231 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:118012 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13951 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13951 "Jody M. Klymak" writes: [...] > I personally find lisp quite difficult. The opportunities to code in > it are few and far enough between, and the syntax so different from > any other modern language, that I have a one-day overhead just to > spool up to the point where I can do even the simplest thing. And > thus the coding opportunities get even fewer and further between, and > the cycle spirals to the point where I am dependent on the good nature > of package maintainers to tweak what I want. > > This must limit the base of emacs coders. Lisp was once very hot, and Emacs was started in eighties. I think you are underestimating the number of people on Unix who know Lisp. It is still being taught in many computer science classes. If you find Emacs Lisp confusing, you could try learning Scheme first. Scheme is a very small Lisp dialect. -- Ole Laursen http://www.cs.auc.dk/~olau/