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* w3 trouble
@ 2003-10-10 20:50 Björn Lindström
  2003-10-17 10:42 ` Björn Lindström
  2003-12-01 21:27 ` Kai Grossjohann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-10-10 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


I have some trouble with w3 and Emacs 21.3.1. When I try to open a page
I get this error:

set-face-attribute: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil

And when I try to view HTML mails/RSS posts in Gnus I get this, followed
by Gnus showing the post with tags and all:

Parsed 100% of 148...done
Drawing... \
Error while rendering html; showing as text/plain

This is very weird, since it worked up until a couple of days ago, and I
can't remember changing any settings that might have affect this. Clues,
please?

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se>
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

Download the new *Elektrubadur* demo from http://elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-10 20:50 w3 trouble Björn Lindström
@ 2003-10-17 10:42 ` Björn Lindström
  2003-10-17 11:38   ` Marc Girod
  2003-12-01 21:27 ` Kai Grossjohann
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-10-17 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)


bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) writes:

> I have some trouble with w3 and Emacs 21.3.1. When I try to open a page
> I get this error:
>
> set-face-attribute: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil
>
> And when I try to view HTML mails/RSS posts in Gnus I get this, followed
> by Gnus showing the post with tags and all:
>
> Parsed 100% of 148...done
> Drawing... \
> Error while rendering html; showing as text/plain
>
> This is very weird, since it worked up until a couple of days ago, and I
> can't remember changing any settings that might have affect this. Clues,
> please?

Since nobody seems to be able to answer this, could maybe someone share
their working w3/gnus settings, so I could try them out?

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se>
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-17 10:42 ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-10-17 11:38   ` Marc Girod
  2003-10-17 13:19     ` Marc Girod
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marc Girod @ 2003-10-17 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)


>>>>> "BL" == Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se> writes:

BL> Since nobody seems to be able to answer this, could maybe someone
BL> share their working w3/gnus settings, so I could try them out?

First, I have only: GNU Emacs 21.2.1

Then, I have quite a lot of settings that might affect.

First old Xresources:

Emacs*w3-tt-style.attributeFont:	-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1
Emacs*w3-header-style.attributeForeground:	AntiqueWhite2
Emacs*w3-italic-style.attributeFont:	-adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1
Emacs*w3-node-style.attributeForeground:	CadetBlue2
Emacs*w3-visited-node-style.attributeFont:	-adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1
Emacs*w3-visited-node-style.attributeForeground:	CadetBlue3

Then some things at various levels in my emacs-lisp files:

(custom-set-faces
 '(cperl-array-face ((((class color) (background dark)) (:bold nil :foreground "wheat" :background "DeepSkyBlue4"))))
 '(widget-button-pressed-face ((t (:foreground "CadetBlue3"))))
 '(highlight-changes-delete-face ((t (:underline t :foreground "CadetBlue2"))))
 '(message-header-name-face ((t (:foreground "Goldenrod"))))
 '(message-header-cc-face ((t (:bold t :foreground "LimeGreen"))))
 '(cperl-hash-face ((((class color) (background dark)) (:bold nil :italic nil :foreground "Salmon" :background "DeepSkyBlue4"))))
 '(message-separator-face ((t (:foreground "Thistle"))))
 '(message-header-other-face ((t (:foreground "Khaki"))))
 '(message-cited-text-face ((t (:foreground "MediumTurquoise")))))

--------------------------------
(eval-when-compile (progn (require 'w3) (require 'w3-print) (require 'ssl)))

(defvar url-be-asynchronous t
  "*Controls whether document retrievals over HTTP should be done in
the background.  This allows you to keep working in other windows
while large downloads occur.")

(autoload 'w3-follow-url-under-mouse-other-frame "w3-addups" nil t)
(autoload 'w3-follow-url-under-mouse             "w3-addups" nil t)
(autoload 'w3-find-this-file-other-frame         "w3-addups" nil t)
(autoload 'w3-print-this-url                     "w3-print"  nil t)
(autoload 'w3-print-url-under-point              "w3-print"  nil t)

(global-set-key [S-mouse-2] 'w3-follow-url-under-mouse-other-frame)
(global-set-key [S-mouse-1] 'w3-follow-url-under-mouse)

(require 'mf-sitevars)
(add-hook 'w3-load-hook
  (function
   (lambda()
     (setq url-passwd-entry-func 'read-string)
     (setq w3-reuse-buffers 'yes)
     (setq w3-track-mouse t)
     (setq url-keep-history t)
     (setq widget-menu-minibuffer-flag t)
     (define-key w3-mode-map "\M-\C-o" 'w3-fetch-other-frame)
     (define-key w3-mode-map "e" 'w3-find-this-file)
     (define-key w3-mode-map "E" 'w3-find-this-file-other-frame)
     (define-key w3-mode-map "\M-<" 'w3-start-of-document)
     (define-key w3-mode-map "\M->" 'w3-end-of-document)

     (unless (string-match "^Exp" url-version)
       (add-to-list 'mm-mime-extensions '(".h"   . "text/emacs"))
       ; must be downcase for the code in mm.el?
       (add-to-list 'mm-mime-extensions '(".c"   . "text/emacs"))
       (add-to-list 'mm-mime-extensions '(".mak" . "text/emacs"))
       (mm-add-mailcap-entry "text" "emacs"
			     '(("viewer" . w3-default-local-file)
			       ("type" . "text/emacs"))))

     (setq url-proxy-services mf-url-proxy-services)
     )))

(add-hook
 'w3-mode-hook
 (function
  (lambda()
     (define-key w3-mode-map [mouse-3] nil)
     (define-key w3-mode-map [down-mouse-3] nil)
     (define-key w3-mode-map [S-down-mouse-3] 'w3-popup-menu))))

(setq w3-display-frames 'as-link)
(setq w3-user-colors-take-precedence t)
(setq w3-use-terminal-characters nil
      w3-use-terminal-glyphs nil
      w3-use-terminal-characters-on-tty nil)
(if mf-using-openssl
    (setq ssl-program-name "w3ssl"
	  ssl-view-certificate-program-name "w3ssl"
	  ssl-program-arguments '("s_client"
				  "-quiet"
				  "-connect" (concat host ":" service)
				  "-verify" (int-to-string 
					     ssl-certificate-verification-policy)
				  "-CApath" (expand-file-name
					     ssl-certificate-directory))
	  ssl-view-certificate-program-arguments '("x509"
						   "-text"
						   "-inform" "DER"))
  (setq ssl-program-name "s_client"
	ssl-program-arguments '("-host" host
				"-port" service
				"-verify" "4"
				"-CApath ~/.w3/certs")))

(if (string-match "^20" emacs-version)
    (require 'w3-auto "w3-auto")
  (autoload 'w3-preview-this-buffer "w3" "WWW Previewer" t)
  (autoload 'w3-follow-url-at-point "w3" "Find document at pt" t)
  (autoload 'w3 "w3" "WWW Browser" t)
  (autoload 'w3-open-local "w3" "Open local file for WWW browsing" t)
  (autoload 'w3-fetch "w3" "Open remote file for WWW browsing" t)
  (autoload 'w3-use-hotlist "w3" "Use shortcuts to view WWW docs" t)
  (autoload 'w3-show-hotlist "w3" "Use shortcuts to view WWW docs" t)
  (autoload 'w3-follow-link "w3" "Follow a hypertext link." t)
  (autoload 'w3-batch-fetch "w3" "Batch retrieval of URLs" t)
  (autoload 'url-get-url-at-point "url" "Find the url under the cursor" nil)
  (autoload 'url-file-attributes  "url" "File attributes of a URL" nil)
  (autoload 'url-popup-info "url" "Get info on a URL" t)
  (autoload 'url-retrieve   "url" "Retrieve a URL" nil)
  (autoload 'url-buffer-visiting "url" "Find buffer visiting a URL." nil))

(provide 'mf-w3)
--------------------------------

But now that I look at it, obviously, my string-match is obsolete, so
that I could see how w3-auto affects...

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-17 11:38   ` Marc Girod
@ 2003-10-17 13:19     ` Marc Girod
  2003-10-20 22:04       ` Björn Lindström
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marc Girod @ 2003-10-17 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)


>>>>> "MG" == Marc Girod <girod@shire.ntc.nokia.com> writes:

MG> But now that I look at it, obviously, my string-match is obsolete,
MG> so that I could see how w3-auto affects...

It didn't seem to break anything, in any case.
Once I was there, I "Customized" a bit the defaults.

-- 
Marc Girod        P.O. Box 323        Voice:  +358-71 80 25581
Nokia NBI         00045 NOKIA Group   Mobile: +358-50 38 78415
Takomo 1 / 4c27   Finland             Fax:    +358-71 80 61604

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-17 13:19     ` Marc Girod
@ 2003-10-20 22:04       ` Björn Lindström
  2003-10-21 16:41         ` Kevin Rodgers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-10-20 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Marc Girod <girod@shire.ntc.nokia.com> writes:

> It didn't seem to break anything, in any case.
> Once I was there, I "Customized" a bit the defaults.

Thanks for all that. But nothing of that really affects Gnus, or does
it?

This is all the settings I have that concerns w3:

(require 'w3)

; Open links in Gnus articles with browse-url.
(eval-after-load "w3"
  '(progn
     (fset 'w3-fetch-orig (symbol-function 'w3-fetch))
     (defun w3-fetch (&optional url target)
       (interactive (list (w3-read-url-with-default)))
       (if (eq major-mode 'gnus-article-mode)
           (browse-url url)
         (w3-fetch-orig url target)))))

Viewing HTML in Gnus with this used to work alright, but now it
doesn't. Is there anything else I might need?

Is there anything I can do to make w3 give some more helpful error
messages than the

Parsed 100% of 240...done
Drawing... \
Error while rendering html; showing as text/plain

stuff?

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se>
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-20 22:04       ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-10-21 16:41         ` Kevin Rodgers
  2003-10-21 18:24           ` Björn Lindström
  2003-10-28  1:03           ` Björn Lindström
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2003-10-21 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


Björn Lindström wrote:

> ; Open links in Gnus articles with browse-url.
> (eval-after-load "w3"
>   '(progn
>      (fset 'w3-fetch-orig (symbol-function 'w3-fetch))
>      (defun w3-fetch (&optional url target)
>        (interactive (list (w3-read-url-with-default)))
>        (if (eq major-mode 'gnus-article-mode)
>            (browse-url url)
>          (w3-fetch-orig url target)))))

You might like advice.el:


(defadvice w3-fetch (around gnus-browse-url activate)
   "Open links in Gnus with `browse-url' instead."
   (if (eq major-mode 'gnus-article-mode)
       (browse-url (ad-get-arg 0))	; URL
     ad-do-it))

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-21 16:41         ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2003-10-21 18:24           ` Björn Lindström
  2003-10-28  1:03           ` Björn Lindström
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-10-21 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)


Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:

> You might like advice.el:
>
> (defadvice w3-fetch (around gnus-browse-url activate)
>    "Open links in Gnus with `browse-url' instead."
>    (if (eq major-mode 'gnus-article-mode)
>        (browse-url (ad-get-arg 0))	; URL
>      ad-do-it))

Yeah, I might, if I got w3 to show anything at all.

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se>
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-21 16:41         ` Kevin Rodgers
  2003-10-21 18:24           ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-10-28  1:03           ` Björn Lindström
  2003-10-28 16:57             ` Kevin Rodgers
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-10-28  1:03 UTC (permalink / raw)


Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:

> Björn Lindström wrote:
>
>> ; Open links in Gnus articles with browse-url.
>> (eval-after-load "w3"
>>   '(progn
>>      (fset 'w3-fetch-orig (symbol-function 'w3-fetch))
>>      (defun w3-fetch (&optional url target)
>>        (interactive (list (w3-read-url-with-default)))
>>        (if (eq major-mode 'gnus-article-mode)
>>            (browse-url url)
>>          (w3-fetch-orig url target)))))
>
> You might like advice.el:
>
> (defadvice w3-fetch (around gnus-browse-url activate)
>    "Open links in Gnus with `browse-url' instead."
>    (if (eq major-mode 'gnus-article-mode)
>        (browse-url (ad-get-arg 0))	; URL
>      ad-do-it))

I gave up on getting w3 to work, and installed emacs-w3m instead. Now I
would like to know how to translate any of the snippets above for use
with emacs-w3m instead of w3.

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se>
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-28  1:03           ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-10-28 16:57             ` Kevin Rodgers
  2003-10-28 23:25               ` Björn Lindström
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2003-10-28 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)


Björn Lindström wrote:

> I gave up on getting w3 to work, and installed emacs-w3m instead. Now I
> would like to know how to translate any of the snippets above for use
> with emacs-w3m instead of w3.

(setq browse-url-browser-function 'w3m-browse-url)


-- 
Kevin Rodgers

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-28 16:57             ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2003-10-28 23:25               ` Björn Lindström
  2003-10-29  0:32                 ` Kevin Rodgers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-10-28 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)


Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:

>> I gave up on getting w3 to work, and installed emacs-w3m instead. Now
>> I would like to know how to translate any of the snippets above for
>> use with emacs-w3m instead of w3.
>
> (setq browse-url-browser-function 'w3m-browse-url)

Thanks, but that wasn't what was I was after. I want links in mails
viewed by emacs-w3m, in Gnus, to open with browse-url-browser-function
(Firebird, in my case).

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se>
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-28 23:25               ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-10-29  0:32                 ` Kevin Rodgers
  2003-10-29  5:48                   ` Björn Lindström
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2003-10-29  0:32 UTC (permalink / raw)


Björn Lindström wrote:

> Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>I gave up on getting w3 to work, and installed emacs-w3m instead. Now
>>>I would like to know how to translate any of the snippets above for
>>>use with emacs-w3m instead of w3.
>>>
>>(setq browse-url-browser-function 'w3m-browse-url)
> 
> Thanks, but that wasn't what was I was after. I want links in mails
> viewed by emacs-w3m, in Gnus, to open with browse-url-browser-function
> (Firebird, in my case).

And my point is that the snippets merely cause Gnus to call browse-url,
which should do what you want if browse-url-browser-function is set to
the right emacs-w3m function.  Does it?  If not, what happens?


-- 
Kevin Rodgers

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-29  0:32                 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2003-10-29  5:48                   ` Björn Lindström
  2003-10-29 17:10                     ` Kevin Rodgers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-10-29  5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)


Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:

> And my point is that the snippets merely cause Gnus to call
> browse-url, which should do what you want if
> browse-url-browser-function is set to the right emacs-w3m function.
> Does it? If not, what happens?

I don't really understand your question. Anyway, the problem is that
following links in w3m in Gnus, does apparently nothing, except for
showing the URI in the message buffer.

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se>
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-29  5:48                   ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-10-29 17:10                     ` Kevin Rodgers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2003-10-29 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)


Björn Lindström wrote:

> Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:
>>And my point is that the snippets merely cause Gnus to call
>>browse-url, which should do what you want if
>>browse-url-browser-function is set to the right emacs-w3m function.
>>Does it? If not, what happens?
> 
> I don't really understand your question. Anyway, the problem is that
> following links in w3m in Gnus, does apparently nothing, except for
> showing the URI in the message buffer.

Sorry, I can't help you.  Maybe you should ask over on gnu.emacs.gnus?


-- 
Kevin Rodgers

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-10-10 20:50 w3 trouble Björn Lindström
  2003-10-17 10:42 ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-12-01 21:27 ` Kai Grossjohann
  2003-12-01 21:50   ` Björn Lindström
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Kai Grossjohann @ 2003-12-01 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw)


bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) writes:

> I have some trouble with w3 and Emacs 21.3.1. When I try to open a page
> I get this error:
>
> set-face-attribute: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil

Which version of W3 have you got?  I think *pre46 is not enough, you
need *pre47.

You could also try the version from CVS.  Search for a w3 project on
savannah.gnu.org.  That should give you the CVS downloading
instructions.  (If you go that route, you'll need to download another
project, "url", first!  It was split out from W3, and W3 depends on
it.)

Kai

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-12-01 21:27 ` Kai Grossjohann
@ 2003-12-01 21:50   ` Björn Lindström
  2003-12-02 13:06     ` Kai Grossjohann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-12-01 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de> writes:

> bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) writes:
>
>> I have some trouble with w3 and Emacs 21.3.1. When I try to open a page
>> I get this error:
>>
>> set-face-attribute: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil
>
> Which version of W3 have you got?  I think *pre46 is not enough, you
> need *pre47.
>
> You could also try the version from CVS.  Search for a w3 project on
> savannah.gnu.org.  That should give you the CVS downloading
> instructions.  (If you go that route, you'll need to download another
> project, "url", first!  It was split out from W3, and W3 depends on
> it.)

I have w3-4.0_pre47. Do you think it will help to get the CVS version?

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-12-01 21:50   ` Björn Lindström
@ 2003-12-02 13:06     ` Kai Grossjohann
  2003-12-02 13:14       ` Björn Lindström
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Kai Grossjohann @ 2003-12-02 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)


bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) wrote in message news:<s38ekvo1a3t.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>...
> 
> I have w3-4.0_pre47. Do you think it will help to get the CVS version?

Hm.  I don't really know.  I remember that I used the CVS version and
it worked.  But that was around the time when *pre47 was created. 
Since then, I've been using emacs-w3m.

If it isn't too much trouble for you, I suggest to try.  Then at the
worst you have wasted 15 minutes.

Kai

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* Re: w3 trouble
  2003-12-02 13:06     ` Kai Grossjohann
@ 2003-12-02 13:14       ` Björn Lindström
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Björn Lindström @ 2003-12-02 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)


Kai.Grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Grossjohann) writes:

> bkhl@elektrubadur.se (Björn Lindström) wrote in message news:<s38ekvo1a3t.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>...
>> 
>> I have w3-4.0_pre47. Do you think it will help to get the CVS version?
>
> Hm.  I don't really know.  I remember that I used the CVS version and
> it worked.  But that was around the time when *pre47 was created.
> Since then, I've been using emacs-w3m.

That's what I did, too.

> If it isn't too much trouble for you, I suggest to try.  Then at the
> worst you have wasted 15 minutes.

If there is no word on what was wrong, I think I'll just keep using
emacs-w3m.

-- 
Björn Lindström <bkhl@elektrubadur.se
http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/

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2003-10-29  0:32                 ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-10-29  5:48                   ` Björn Lindström
2003-10-29 17:10                     ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-12-01 21:27 ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-12-01 21:50   ` Björn Lindström
2003-12-02 13:06     ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-12-02 13:14       ` Björn Lindström

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