Collecting keywords in bibtex mode

Collecting keywords in bibtex mode

[Sven Bretfeld]

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Hi to all

I'm sadly missing a feature in bibtex mode. It should be possible to
collect a list of all values in all keywords = {value} lines of a
bibtex buffer. Alternatively a list of all possible values for this
field should be definable by the user (maybe in some commented region
on top or bottom of the file like the Local Variables).

The point is, that the keywords-fields of a bibtex database should
have a consistent terminology. When, for example, I want to view all
my collected entries on the topic "warfare" there are possibly some
books that are not matched because I accidentally gave them the
keyword "war" instead of "warfare". This could be better controlled at
the time of inserting a new entry with a kind of
"bibtex-show-and-select-keywords" function.

Other bibliography software (like Endnote and JabRef) are aware of
keywords. In Emacs I haven't found such a feature. Have I overlooked
it? Or did I (like so often) just not understand the power of a
certain function?

Greetings

Sven

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Re: Collecting keywords in bibtex mode

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

Sven Bretfeld wrote:
> Hi to all
> 
> I'm sadly missing a feature in bibtex mode. It should be possible to
> collect a list of all values in all keywords = {value} lines of a
> bibtex buffer. Alternatively a list of all possible values for this
> field should be definable by the user (maybe in some commented region
> on top or bottom of the file like the Local Variables).
> 
> The point is, that the keywords-fields of a bibtex database should
> have a consistent terminology. When, for example, I want to view all
> my collected entries on the topic "warfare" there are possibly some
> books that are not matched because I accidentally gave them the
> keyword "war" instead of "warfare". This could be better controlled at
> the time of inserting a new entry with a kind of
> "bibtex-show-and-select-keywords" function.
> 
> Other bibliography software (like Endnote and JabRef) are aware of
> keywords. In Emacs I haven't found such a feature. Have I overlooked
> it? Or did I (like so often) just not understand the power of a
> certain function?
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Sven


It sounds like a good idea and something that would be equally useful in 
org-mode.

BTW, has anyone used org-mode for keeping article references etc? Some 
suggestions about how to do it?

Re: Collecting keywords in bibtex mode

[Bastien]

Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:

> I'm sadly missing a feature in bibtex mode. It should be possible to
> collect a list of all values in all keywords = {value} lines of a
> bibtex buffer. Alternatively a list of all possible values for this
> field should be definable by the user (maybe in some commented region
> on top or bottom of the file like the Local Variables).

I tried to implement this:

  http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/u/bibtex-utils.el

Try M-x bibtex-make-field-keywords

It should create a keywords field and ask for each keywords depending on
current values is the buffer.  You can also have a look at the function
`bibtex-select-entries': it lets you display entries depending on the
value of a specific field.

Let me know if this is useful.

-- 
Bastien

Re: Collecting keywords in bibtex mode

[Bastien]

"Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:

>> Other bibliography software (like Endnote and JabRef) are aware of
>> keywords. In Emacs I haven't found such a feature. Have I overlooked
>> it? Or did I (like so often) just not understand the power of a
>> certain function?
>
> It sounds like a good idea and something that would be equally useful
> in org-mode.

Not 100% of what you mean by "in org-mode" : do you mean this would be
useful to keep references in org-mode (as your sentence below suggests)
and be able to add keywords to the BibTeX entries interactively ?

> BTW, has anyone used org-mode for keeping article references etc? Some
> suggestions about how to do it?

I guess people on emacs-orgmode list could answer that.

In any case, I'm not using org-mode for this right now, but I can easily
imagine how this would be done : each BibTeX entry would be an Org entry
and we would use properties to store information on it. Then an exporter
would be able to export this to BibTeX, refer, endnote.  Pretty exciting
IMO !

-- 
Bastien

Re: Collecting keywords in bibtex mode

[Sven Bretfeld]

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Hi Bastien and all others

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> I tried to implement this:
>
>   http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/u/bibtex-utils.el

That's just WOW!! It will be of much help for many I guess. As soon as
it is working. 

By now, it doesn't work for me.

> Try M-x bibtex-make-field-keywords

This function produces an empty keywords field at the moment.
Something with the function bibtex-collect-keywords-values seems not
to work right now. 

I also tried to run only bibtex-collect-keywords-values, and it just
ran for 20 minutes with 100% CPU until I killed the process. So there
seems to be a loop somewhere.

I reduced my bib-file to some 20 entries for testing purpose. Only
some of them contain a keywords-field with just one single keyword.
But the same result. Also when I start emacs with -q -nw and load
bibtex-utils manually.

I send you my bib-file per PM. Please try if it works with this file
on your system, so that we can exclude that it is just the file format
that produces the problem.

> Let me know if this is useful.

I will be. I'm sure.

Thank you very much.

Sven

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