From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: wikipedia's (ascii) math notation? emacs easy-way to translate it? Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:43:57 +0100 Message-ID: <874p1nbmg2.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87oczwkmy2.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> <26c8eecf-4e39-4ef6-8a3c-83bdf7f1f32f@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228167885 22497 80.91.229.12 (1 Dec 2008 21:44:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Lee Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 01 22:45:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L7GaN-0005gh-5Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:45:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50586 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L7GZD-0001m8-38 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:44:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L7GYs-0001lq-Q6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:44:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L7GYr-0001le-Iw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:44:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52876 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L7GYr-0001la-Bc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:44:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.145]:54924) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L7GYq-0003O6-Pv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:44:09 -0500 Original-Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so1156485eyg.24 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:44:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=/ikmz8OBeg5+A+olLujO3mz2eaI7GL4IVCIH1y7NPCo=; b=xY62L5w2Gd1R37s/XBunNLMOc5IGhYtqi+XwhISxNsVZHwo7P6aXDHTmw99H9U2fKv xNcn1klpm1h/cJ+eyhbj6irinCA7zLmB9GBcJPqksqkWwJs6sQSFQiTFxoQfKkfA2klp z+nIBkj9gKQcf1IyEpyP95MJIxRDUQkcDgi1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=J+HG6qXwCqjxLpJFr+nXbPxU1kwo8SwAhprOr5citFh6csfo5LhQgwMsFsmKLAGhkY 9aLZMWmmQYuSJbvTAM3WN7/1+Wk8vj0lC/G7L30/LYvLfxWNC28P3VucIV8xErNJnPRZ P+JDSj8aJvyg5yYXS+d2QhwR7CLnpIrE5Mjeg= Original-Received: by 10.86.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr6699294fgb.56.1228167840897; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:44:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (pdc35-1-82-242-132-111.fbx.proxad.net [82.242.132.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm56046fga.17.2008.12.01.13.43.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:44:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <26c8eecf-4e39-4ef6-8a3c-83bdf7f1f32f@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> (Xah Lee's message of "Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:22:01 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60299 Archived-At: Xah> Mathematica is a order of magnitude better because its typesetting Xah> system not only passively show math formulas as a pretty printing Xah> system, but the markup syntax is also semantically meaningful. (for Xah> example, when you type set x^2/x^3, it actually knows that it is Xah> x^(2/3) and you can have it automatically simplify the expression Xah> or computer numerical values). Are we really talking about a typesetting system here ? I would not say MS Paint is an order of magnitude better than emacs because you can draw with pixel while in emacs you still have to draw in old ascii art. Maxima, for exemple, being a symbolic expressions processor, will let you work with symbolic expressions and provide export to latex formulas. I have been using happily mixed session of auctex and maxima in the past for scientific presentations. I guess imaxima has improved a lot since and can provide most of what you will need nowaday. -- Paul