From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: editor and word processor history (was: Re: RTF for emacs) Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 03:38:31 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <874n09nz3c.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> References: <87ha4d64r2.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87bnuho13m.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401327628 14720 80.91.229.3 (29 May 2014 01:40:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 01:40:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 29 03:40:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WppKP-0004e6-9d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45657 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WppKO-0003Sb-Tl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 21:40:20 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 37 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:P21tsef4kZ21EFZ/IbKo1SAlhOQ= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205652 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97922 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > I never heard of WordStar - it doesn't seem to be > related to Oracle's StarOffice either because it > originated from a program called StarWriter. Wait... It's coming back to me. Like a blue, gray, and white star as the splash screen, for the early PC? Back then, I used computers from the accursed Apple world, so the word processors were MacWrite, M$ Word, and, much later, ClarisWorks (shivers). On the PC at somewhat the same time, perhaps a bit later, there were the WordPerfect, which was simpler, along with Word. For the Unix world, I have read there was once an editor called ed that didn't showed the file being manipulated at all - the "state" of the file, as it was called (unbelievable). Some people actually liked that, so some other people made em ("ed for mortals") which I believe showed a single line - that project (em) forked to ex (extended editor) and ded (display editor). ex later became vi (visual editor) and even later vim ("vi improved"). Emacs (or EMACS, the macro editor) came from the MIT project TECO (text/tape editor and corrector). nano is another very basic editor yet to be mentioned. sed (stream editor) is not really an editor - a batch editor perhaps, but then there are many Unix tools that maps input to output, where both currencies are text streams. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573