From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 02:20:03 +0200 Message-ID: <874mj0ij4c.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87bndfauey.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87wpw0e58f.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87si6n822t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87twr1pycd.fsf@debian.uxu> <87zj0s5yc8.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442016934 15173 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2015 00:15:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 00:15:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 02:15:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaYTT-00014M-GS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 02:15:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59014 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaYTS-0002X3-U8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaYTD-0002Ve-UQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:15:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaYTA-0004RN-P3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36366) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaYTA-0004Qc-I6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaYT9-0000Zg-3N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 02:15:03 +0200 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 02:15:03 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 02:15:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JvaGMo7PFMO1r0WaQco94PxlhlA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107160 Archived-At: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: > No Smalltalk -> no lisa -> no Macintosh -> no > MS-Windows and no NeXTSTEP (Apple would be dead by > now) -> MacOSX -> no iPad/iPhone. > > No Java -> no Android. > > Imagine if the bitmap displays were only used on > high end workstations for scientific data > representation, and in low-end PC for games. > > Most PC would still work with text screens. Did Smalltalk have any positive consequences as well? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573