From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Even more Gnus material: we made the paper! Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:31:20 +0100 Message-ID: <874mcppvon.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87povgmihm.fsf@debian.uxu> <87bn6z4g52.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456878742 3767 80.91.229.3 (2 Mar 2016 00:32:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 00:32:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 01:32:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aaui3-0003Ov-22 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:32:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aaui2-0002cj-9B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:32:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aauhS-00027g-Aa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:31:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aauhP-0002D9-0g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:31:34 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aauhO-0002Cq-QJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:31:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aauhJ-0002nu-Li for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:31:25 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-54.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:31:25 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-54.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:31:25 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-54.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+olHzqnv4Fvpn0NHaw8d+AxeTiY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:109382 Archived-At: Nick Dokos writes: > A long time ago, EMACS was (half-jokingly) supposed > to stand for "Eight Megabytes And Constantly > Swapping" (particularly among the vi crowd); it now > exhibits "modest operating requirements" that allow > it to run on all kinds of clunkers. Ah, how times > change... Even then (before the desktops and their GUIs, or when they were at their infancy) I've heard the rest of the software were totally fragmented and incompatible so Emacs was already at that point the "maelstrom" which gave leverage into the system as a whole... Sometimes a think of it like the stone age. Imagine if the Europeans had never left the stone age phase but only perfected it until supreme mastery (and insanity). It would be Easter Island only over the entire world! And perhaps some Emacs people are like that - at this point at what they think a higher level (because of perfecting rather than reinventing), but ultimately doomed to end up in the dust bin of history... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573