From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Etymology of `visiting' files Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 12:53:43 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <874m6vlefc.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <87y447oaaw.fsf@rudiments.goosenet.in> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470653914 28882 195.159.176.226 (8 Aug 2016 10:58:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 10:58:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 08 12:58:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWiGB-0005Sx-6x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 12:58:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56239 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bWiG8-0007nN-4b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 06:58:16 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Trace: individual.net vUjUHfniLMN8bclrFWVd/QbFJrW0+OxqINqJ7B0uZZusnMGBcu Cancel-Lock: sha1:M2QxMGM5NTMwMmZmOTJjZjUxNmZkNGI1YzMwN2JjMmFjZWI1YTg0OA== sha1:3ipgPIo83XT+uTNotc0wmMS3kb0= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:218710 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:111075 Archived-At: Udyant Wig writes: > What motivated the choice of the verb `visiting'? > > From reading some of the relevant section in the Emacs and Elisp > manuals, I understand the process the verb names. However, I wanted to > find some reasoning or discussion about the choice of verb; my own > expectation would have been something like `edit' or `load', but that > would be looking through the lens provided by recent editing systems. When you visit a friend's home, you enter it, you can look around, and you may touch and change something (move a vase from the table to the console) or not, and then leave the house. Same with files. visit = (or edit load) edit implies some mutation. load implies no mutation. When you visit, you can do either. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ “The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk