From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Another Emacs incompatibilty Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 06:30:35 +0200 Message-ID: <874kor9wk4.fsf@ebih.ebihd> References: <86r1s648dc.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86wo1xz4lt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <83imdhgsqo.fsf@gnu.org> <86blj9xc2z.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <87blj8gbmh.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878secyj10.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <875z9gg5qm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <83sgckftm5.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn7owmjn.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <83mu2sfrci.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8n1nmxl.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <59772f2d-8346-43ae-b9de-d7016dc49797@default> <87ft8bmxuq.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16944"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:S9K7lfefs1RRCQr/1bnJRLUpdN0= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 25 06:31:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAQc5-0004Hm-BQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 06:31:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51364 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAQc4-0001Kp-ED for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42108) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAQbe-0001Kh-Os for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:52398 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAQbc-00060A-IP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAQbZ-0003la-RW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 06:30:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/25 00:30:42 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123755 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: >>>> Is it currently possible, if d-s-m is active, to >>>> easily retrieve the deleted/replaced item? >>> >>> Yes, on a per-command basis. >> >> OK, I have an idea for a rule guys, whenever >> someone asks if something is possible, please do >> not just answer "yes" whenever it is, also show >> how one is suppose to actually do it :) > > FWIW, I didn't only offer that one-liner in > that msg. One-liners are enough (preferable, even) if they show how to do it. > (put 'insert-char 'delete-selection t) OK, so that's the syntax. This must be a very arcane way of configuration. I did use `put' but only to enable and disable, as in (put 'help-for-help 'disabled t) But, what are properties and how do I know what properties a function has? And how do I write a function with properties? (I don't think I want to, in general, but I always want to do things I didn't do, at least once...) > Or if you instead want `insert-char' to kill the > selected text (so you can later yank it) instead of > just deleting it, add this to your init file, to > override the default behavior: > > (put 'insert-char 'delete-selection 'kill) `insert-char'? Sure, that's ONE way to insert, but there are many other ways to insert things, and not just a single char, and then (if you desire this functionality to begin with, that is) then you _always_ want the selection to be killed, I think is the objective here? Anyway, I don't get it to work: (delete-selection-mode) ; t (put 'insert-char 'delete-selection 'kill) ; kill I type this set-mark-command beginning-of-line set-mark-command s ("I type this" disappears, the letter s appears) yank "I type this" does NOT appear ? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal