From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Cannot see what is written on modeline Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 15:09:12 +0200 Message-ID: <874kf0yyrr.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <20210518075559.GA11623@tuxteam.de> <83lf8cs162.fsf@gnu.org> <83cztorzr4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14566"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:In/HEzCeY8/Gs0L4Bf3QZAxe7c0= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 18 15:10:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lizU3-0003cO-JT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 15:10:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59996 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lizU1-0001mc-NY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 09:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lizTM-0001kR-SM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 09:09:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:50598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lizTK-00043p-Qn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 09:09:20 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lizTJ-0002fj-5j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 15:09:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:129884 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: wael-zwaiter@gmx.com >> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:12:48 +0200 >> >> > Where did those colors come from? they are not the default colors. >> >> I took them from calling >> >> M-x customize-face mode-line > > So you your self asked Emacs to use these colors? then I think Emacs > shouldn't second-guess you. I think that the OP is saying that he looked up the colors through M-x customize-face, not that he *setted* them. I asked him to make some experiments to determine the source of those colors, but his last message in our exchange contained only quoted text from previous messages. > There could be a place to warn the user that these colors mean low > contrast, when the user is about to save the changes. Would that be > good enough? In general, that feature could avoid the scenario where by accident or ignorance the user sets a background and foreground so similar to each other that the customize-face interface itself becomes unreadable. Instead of asking before applying the changes, is could be better to ask after the changes are visible, using a temporary "safe" color combination on the minibuffer: "your changes look like this, do you want to keep them?".