From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: package for Email Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:20:18 +0000 Organization: On the Interweb somewhere Message-ID: <874jsm5we5.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87mt6fxoak.fsf@dataswamp.org> <86mt6e4nuk.fsf@eduroam-193-157-225-240.wlan.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12108"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: gnus (Emacs 30.0.50) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ORjLw5tTBLdYZXqxaHY72aWmaZ0= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 17:21:10 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIXf4-00032N-Rc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:21:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIXeS-0000CQ-68; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:20:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIXeQ-0000BA-I4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:20:30 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIXeO-0003VZ-1o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:20:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIXeL-00021t-Qm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:20:25 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Url: http://twitter.com/ericsfraga/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142432 Archived-At: On Thursday, 19 Jan 2023 at 15:10, Martin Steffen wrote: > I agree (but qualified). I used RMAIL when I started with emacs (long > time ago, and I think I used other emacs email software), gnus is way > more versatile. One thing that may speak against it is it can be > complex. +1 having gone from RMAIL to VM to wl to gnus (with mutt somewhere in the middle). > Actually, I started having troubles locally, after my organization did > no longer supported IMAP properly (which as a consequence mean, all > email clients/user programs work excellently as long as they are called > outlook). I've had the same problem including 2FA introduced two years ago. I'm using davmail as an intermediary to ensure I can keep using gnus. Works well. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2022-12-05) on Debian 11.5