From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Mailing lists help [it was: Help with hooks] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 18:04:08 +0200 Message-ID: <874jjzfkef.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <988fce74-dd23-b32f-cf7d-c48ac2783777@gmail.com> <87v8cpes6f.fsf@gmail.com> <87cyyxpzhp.fsf@dataswamp.org> <362ac9d7-9242-3e40-ac87-f65eef0f59ce@gmail.com> <87edj5hi82.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87cyynh1fi.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9627"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:zdIwf9Pg3j8eQMRKMbGMVtmXjkA= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 13 18:38:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qgSsj-0002Km-LL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 18:38:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qgSsQ-0002tl-23; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 12:38:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg5sC-00043d-Dx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 12:04:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg5s9-0005He-T3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 12:04:20 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qg5s7-0002IR-Nf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 18:04:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 12:38:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145121 Archived-At: Eric S Fraga wrote: >> I subscribed via e-mail to the list. I am using Thunderbird >> to read the digests. I have never used Usenet, although >> I have heard about it. I know I could use better tools to >> use mailing lists, but I don't understand the options you >> are offering to help me. > > Using TB (or any other email tool) is perfectly fine. > > If, however, you wish to access the newsgroup Emmanuel > suggested, gmane.emacs.help, you should be able to do that > via TB as well; at least, the last time I used TB, which was > some years ago now, it had support for newsgroups. > > If you do wish to try using "news" instead of "email", the > newsgroup server is "news.gwene.org" and the newsgroup to > subscribe to is "gmane.emacs.help". You might wish to try > this but email subscription, as you have already, is > perfectly fine. The mailing list is help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org - any e-mail client (or "MUA", mail user agent) is fine, including Thunderbird, they should vary a great deal tho in what capacity they can do mail splitting to organize the material neatly. The Gmane group is gmane.emacs.help and the server is news.gmane.io - I have not heard of anyone using Gmane with any other client than Emacs Gnus. Anyway here the organizing is implied/automatic. The material should be the same on help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org and gmane.emacs.help because that is what Gmane does, it is a mail-to-NNTP gateway, and that particular newsgroup is linked specifically to the mentioned mailing list. The Usenet group is gnu.emacs.help - a free-of-charge server is news.eternal-september.org. Any client is fine (etc) However, previously there was a gateway operational for gnu.emacs.help and help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org as well, but I heard it doesn't work anymore. If it doesn't, I wouldn't recommend using gnu.emacs.help since any traffic there won't turn up on the mailing list, and vice versa. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal