From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noufal Ibrahim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:13:47 +0530 Organization: Cisco Systems Inc. Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <873ced8i0s.fsf@cisco.com> References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064998942 4845 80.91.224.253 (1 Oct 2003 09:02:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 01 11:02:21 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4csG-0006UM-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:02:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4cro-0001KH-QN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 05:01:52 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACUAAAAwBAMAAABkq64YAAAAGFBMVEUkHRvGpo6Fe3GurqrG wr5iWlLy8/JGPjqIkFRdAAABzklEQVR42oWTQW/cIBCFaSSLq6He9rrMlvha2avk7LVDr1tSxLXa OO6V7Iry98tg47hSpY5sJH96j8eAIVOsy7Stn+TfbBy+DWtNCtnYi0fRsAPnAjjrk25s9FlrI7WJ I8ikO1mSiroijg/6IbJ+T1ymhFz1J9SdM0t1Tbq/mUHWSJu/Pb7ITpBlhYzDnGFXZtziPe1Xow7v GamCJSYs3llHXQjOD+clFxk1wVJSNDkDvd4GNMb6gv22yAJt5dlRYov7lZGrautAfH9Le9XjfAba tnXktuxzytUNsAaZmnXR642EQ+PoddEhc0aw4aOlVqnVW3AhKi6pn46JXZAxLaRuadh4ibaBhO91 UJtccke95o96o6Pug6SCSbP1kt8cGJOQ2dfEGGPAhszifDS8IYNj7q0mjhZ3nnEo37IunhFuXcdh /yOzmpIQiOaRPW+8eDZeQ53X16HXFRCr1ksfIxMlHrsGuzv248y6qnQuaAnxLPL/rNRrHZwG6e8n lf/x6fLkXOxZHw6bu1C6EINAvKiV/YoZUQny+Z2Vrqah8CBuL80x5Z7EXgpcHqvi/RmSrm8/M7bb MTaoaRyXXPVUDV1XDWNcQnzm+V7/fy//AH0M4FB4Y+DtAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:O5h/oP0da5NoaBciJl4oypjy8Og= Cache-Post-Path: sj-nntpcache-3!unknown@dhcp-64-104-136-129.cisco.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b2 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 29 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:116986 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12913 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12913 brakjoller@hotmail.com (Barman Brakjoller) writes: [...] > Is it worth it? I'm using Emacs on w32 and Linux and are quite happy > with my arrow keys, but the argument above about not having to move > away from the main part of the keyboard sounds logical. [...] Once you use any set of keys long enough with a program, they'll become automatic and you won't actually think about them anymore. It makes sense to choose a set of keys that's quick and convenient so that you'll get used to something good. Using F9,F10,F11,F2 to move around would work too once you get used to it but it's intrinsically slower. In that respect, I'd reccommed using the emacs default bindings. I find them very convenient and quick. However, a lot of other apps use the cursor keys to move around so the inconsistency might get annoying. Just my 0.2$. -- ~noufal It's hard to drive at the limit, but it's harder to know where the limits are. -- Stirling Moss