From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: SU commands from Emacs Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:20:40 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <873ay8y99j.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <878x8ahxho.fsf@W0053328.mgh.harvard.edu> <87eji1hpmk.fsf@W0053328.mgh.harvard.edu> <87y7g1s6qx.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188026802 11496 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2007 07:26:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 07:26:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 25 09:26:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IOq2a-0005xx-MU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:26:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IOq2Z-0002FA-Ri for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:26:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IOq2K-0002DO-Mu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:26:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IOq2J-0002Bh-8k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:26:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IOq2J-0002BT-25 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IOfcc-0003SF-JF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:19:12 -0400 Original-Received: from drms-590c712e.pool.einsundeins.de [89.12.113.46] (helo=debby.local.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1IOfca06CN-0000xJ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:19:08 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IOfe4-0007uA-DV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:20:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y7g1s6qx.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> (Tim X.'s message of "Fri\, 24 Aug 2007 17\:59\:18 +1000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18u1F24y5QgG722CkqB1OI8M5edxJ3Z6eJYtqa kjZ4lLivnp7Z2lMwTT1hX1a2jDNPSxoFTSIGhqsponfHav2Y+R 4XT87tUFWn5UJbDmj+Sg6qiBn8Sv9kT X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:46827 Archived-At: Hi Tim, normally I'm also using commands which require root privileges from the shell buffer. But I'm forcing myself to use more and more Emacs inbuilt functionality. In this line of reasoning using find-grep on /etc was actually inattentiveness on my side. Reading the su command thread I was wondering if Emacs could even do privileged operations on directories. And low and behold it can! Emacs never ceases to amaze. Michael Albinus and Peter Dyballa, as you probably already have read, explained that the new tramp version in CVS is able to do this via a dired buffer and the sudo prefix as you hinted at. Even though it might turn out to be a bit dangerous for inattentive users ;-). The idea of you with multiple Emacs processes seems not so far fetched in general. I read that some users are doing this quite comfortably. But as I'm only occasionally dabble with computers it's clearly not necessary. But I'll check the tramp method when I'm in the mood to download the CVS version. Also thank you for the hints with the lisp shells, good to know that they exist. Why do you mention Scheme as well, how it is related to Emacs and Elisp? -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany