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From: pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Perl, etc has these "?"-prefix modifiers/codes/whatever. Precisely which does emacs have (and NOT have)?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:02:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <873a0ynz99.fsf@galatea.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1450.1266512270.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

John Withers <grayarea@reddagger.org> writes:

> On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 12:46 +0100, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:
>> dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes:
>> 
>> > Subj:  Perl, etc has these "?"-prefix modifiers/codes/whatever.  
>> >        Precisely which does emacs have (and NOT have)?
>> >
>> >
>> > Please, someone, make an ascii or html table or even plain text 
>> > list of all these neat "new" non-standard ops that perl and
>> > even php and ruby etc seem to have now, comparing them
>> > to what Emacs has or don't have.
>> 
>> emacs lisp has a lot of data types.  But in lisp, the types are not
>> associated to the variables, but to the values.  Therefore names
>> (symbols are used to name things in general in lisp) don't need to be
>> marked in any special way.
>
> No, what he wants is for someone to go through and make a list of all
> the perl lookahead/behind assertions for regular expressions, even
> though the data is very easily found with a single google search and
> comes down to pretty much if it has a (?<symbol> then emacs doesn't have
> it, because the regexes in emacs haven't been touched since the
> neolithic.
>
> And finally he is looking for a code patch or pointers to where to look
> for something like this patch you can find with a simple google search:
> http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi/bugreport.cgi?msg=1;bug=5393
>
> And while I am more than happy to take digs at the lack of basic google
> searches and lazyweb requests, I do get the sentiment. At this point the
> entire rest of the world has moved on to perl-style regular expressions
> a good decade ago, and unlike many things about the world moving in a
> different direction than emacs, in this case they have more
> functionality. Lookahead and lookbehind assertions are useful. 

Ah, I thought he meant the $x @x #x whatever...

In the case of "regular expressions", when you add certain extensions,
they're not regular expressions at all, so, I will just cite Jamie
Zawinski:


    Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
    regular expressions."  Now they have two problems. 



-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-18 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-18  6:10 Perl, etc has these "?"-prefix modifiers/codes/whatever. Precisely which does emacs have (and NOT have)? David Combs
2010-02-18 11:46 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-02-18 16:57   ` John Withers
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1450.1266512270.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-02-18 19:02     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2010-02-18 21:38       ` John Bokma
2010-02-18 21:42       ` John Withers
     [not found]       ` <mailman.1460.1266529372.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-02-19  0:53         ` David Combs
2010-02-19  1:06         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-02-19  2:36           ` John Withers
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1470.1266547034.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-02-19  6:48             ` Tim X
2010-02-20 21:14               ` John Withers
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1559.1266700478.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-02-23 12:33                 ` Tim Landscheidt
2010-02-18 16:23 ` Tyler Smith
     [not found] ` <mailman.1449.1266510261.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-02-19  0:59   ` David Combs
2010-02-19  3:22     ` Tyler Smith
2010-02-24 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier

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