From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glyn Millington Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: XEmacs Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 23:06:37 +0100 Organization: Utterly lacking Message-ID: <8738tq5yc2.fsf@nowhere.org> References: <87li82icgp.fsf@nowhere.org> <0ec06843-d9ed-47ac-a926-716fca352eeb@googlegroups.com> <87mwrzyjhl.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> Reply-To: glyn.millington@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368483036 6194 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2013 22:10:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 22:10:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 14 00:10:35 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc0x1-0003x3-4h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 00:10:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38804 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc0x0-0004MF-Mw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 18:10:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc0wn-0004M9-CF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 18:10:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc0wh-0006FF-S9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 18:10:21 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42360) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc0wh-0006FB-LG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 18:10:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc0wg-0003m4-Lk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 00:10:14 +0200 Original-Received: from cust25-dsl91-135-3.idnet.net ([91.135.3.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 00:10:14 +0200 Original-Received: from glyn.millington by cust25-dsl91-135-3.idnet.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 00:10:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 85 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cust25-dsl91-135-3.idnet.net X-Liturgical-Date: Optional Memorial: Our Lady of Fatima, A.D. 2013 X-Shakespeare: "At Christmas I no more desire a rose Than wish a snow in May's new-fangled shows; But like of each thing that in season grows." -- Love's Labour's Lost, I.1.105-7 (Biron to Ferdinand, King of Navarre) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q6APT34kSF94hXZS7kxY3yI2HXU= X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90729 Archived-At: Hils writes: > On 12/05/13 22:29, Emanuel Berg wrote: >> Hils writes: >> >>> One of the last things I did with Emacs on my last windoze box was >>> configure gnus, but I didn't have the time, patience, or brainflops >>> to set it up as well as I can with a few clicks in Iceweasel, so >>> Iceweasel it still is for news and mail. >> I've spent some time configuring Gnus. Mostly it is about looks. You >> can see a screenshot how far I've come here: >> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/pics/usenet.png >> Now, that dump is from a tabbed urxvt, so it doesn't look exactly >> like that in the console (for example, there is no underline), but I >> had to make a short guest appearance in X as to be able to use scrot >> to take a screenshot. They look more or less the same, anyway. >> What I've used so far, Gnus is great! > > That looks really cool. One of the things which bothered me about Gnus > was its determination to delete and ignore every article which had > been read. Is there a way to make it keep local copies of everything > for n days, With Gnus there is always a way :-) Note first that Gnus hides read articles by default but they are still there until they are _expired_. See here http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus_187.html#SEC187 and especially the sentences ,---- | If you do not mark an article as expirable, it will remain on your system | until hell freezes over. This bears repeating one more time, with some | spurious capitalizations: IF you do NOT mark articles as EXPIRABLE, Gnus | will NEVER delete those ARTICLES. `---- So they can be read again simply by entering the group with C-u SPC. Now - how to automate expiry? That man page gives you all the gory details but as an example I have the following in my .gnus ;; marks mail as expirable once read - VITAL NB this is TOTAL expiry (setq gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups "ANDREW\\|CENTRAL\\|CHRISTOPHER\\|CLAIRE\\|MCASLAN\\|DIARY\\|LICC\\|OTHER\\| .... the real list is much longer but you get the idea") And you can even specify how long mail hangs around in a particular group, as below. ;; PER GROUP MAIL EXPIRY - neat! ;; NB the #' before lambda group is essential - not there in manual!! (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function #'(lambda (group) (cond ((string= group "CHRISTOPHER") 10) ((string= group "SYNOD") 10) ((string= group "FREEBSD") 3) ((string= group "CENTRAL") 10) ((string= group "OTHER") 1) ((string= group "SYSTEM") 1) ((string= group "spam") 'immediate) (t 3)))) Hope that helps! atb Glyn