From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to build the C language environment in Emacs? Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 05:55:35 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87387n6vg8.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <54a773933fe5_@_imoxion.com> <86k314me0k.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhlfnz8w.fsf@debian.uxu> <86mw5vpbz6.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420606565 3335 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2015 04:56:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 04:56:05 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 07 05:55:59 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8ieN-0001EJ-0o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 05:55:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39256 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8ieM-0007kZ-8m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:55:18 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:66S5Z+Xq0aaNqMDvpc/C2lSTz5A= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:209640 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101918 Archived-At: Óscar Fuentes writes: > Can you both provide hard facts instead of vague FUD > about what makes Emacs on Windows an unpleasant > experience? I have been in exactly this discussion before. Even then there were people who said it isn't the same at all (and provided examples), and there were also people who got agitated and said "its exactly the same, what are you talking about, oh oh oh". I can mention dozens of things that are different running Emacs in a Linux VT compared to running it on Windows. Probably hundreds but I stopped doing it on Windows after two or three days and I won't do it again. But what is different: the colors and how to set them up, retrieval and installation of Emacs itself, how to invoke it, how you get additional software (e.g., LaTeX components, and Emacs-w3m), what such software is available, how Emacs interacts with the rest of the system - it doesn't have to be IPC with named pipes or anything that fancy (but that would be different as well, because of the different OS models) - it can be as simple as the clipboard interaction with tmux and X, all that just recently discussed would be totally unapplicable; the keys, and how to setup special keys; not to mention Windows in itself as a laughably bloated and annoying system with popups and nuclear wars all the time running amok in the, eh, "background". Windows is a joke. No excuses! -- underground experts united