From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 02:21:45 +0200 Message-ID: <8735u3eorq.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87k0ngggkq.fsf@zoho.eu> <87h7ijg9ls.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v96zet60.fsf@zoho.eu> <87bl8resgb.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9980"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:whqzC5J/yJ16frQY5TPiG043juY= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 02:22:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnVhh-0002PZ-Jr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 02:22:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55904 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnVhf-0006mu-Qx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 20:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnVgr-0006mk-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 20:21:57 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:41752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnVgo-0000sG-82 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 20:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnVgm-0001Nd-K7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 02:21:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130380 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >> Never, they have dedicated business systems for this... > > Watch better. Software in many companies is not necessarily > upgraded just because world upgrades OS-es, when something > works, it works. I have seen DOS programs still being used > in large malls (under some Windows). Well, maybe you have seen that but I have not seen anyone use DOS since the 90s and I've not seen anyone (almost?) that used Emacs that wasn't a programmer or tech person. There is a FreeDOS BTW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDOS > You heavily underestimate the Emacs power. Well, one, I'm not a corporate-world person, and two, do say, how much power has Emacs? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal