From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Morally equivalent Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:10:47 +0200 Message-ID: <8735bne2d4.fsf@web.de> References: <87y1tfzhzm.fsf@undisclosedlocation.com> <877d0zfjqa.fsf@web.de> <87h703e445.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32211"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 02:11:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okDjO-0008BY-0n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:11:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okDjM-0000ky-NJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:11:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42630) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okDiV-0000kp-Nf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:10:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:54841) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okDiT-000777-Pd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:10:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1665965447; bh=c0iqR8hEj9TG3qMSr8r+rejezcZ2RVujm3Z0VcNacHI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=WUGqKartm5pdBOG3Yc6FLd+0QJ7EhejHlHuakLg07TaolO6O1I0I6o1xZz6pADeT9 Joo74VE3g0GrmXfztUPVe9npjmDakVH7Z4bELjES9vRF/t2yChpm6YhMNVLU8eKIpp e7F2MXfJAI7cRTnUlmCGkt2kE4oku6AQYw4CjULdcOQmQUB8XPjs8pMJMpTjuF2CtN Wg/Wj31XoZk+yE71/T3BZjReY0EAzLE9OQRL7cLV8uL+6nBl2KA12SnzeD7mV8RGvL g8dMYSNaXL133G0R0GwqsQNJ1XJkg156RrISm1UzjiLjWNklgVnl/8cglxyTgxEOIL oqqECKxY3aRKA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([94.222.172.180]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N0Zns-1p51pD2vjQ-00wLrU; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:10:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Christopher Dimech's message of "Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:00:54 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cE2mgSCHbftsxP/UZnBQeqxgH87L7+6+655MJ8d3XwFoTjSk2eB 3TuIRzmhfMiD26Btp3B0riBwoK558ev+bcUBgbYf7wo4AA3jc+5qOmFLAhnVJAOkJGdUipz kMOpLI4YgX6xZ2rbxxAviMAI1CPPQ+RuC+8XH+XPH5SpMrOTeSaSdWi5hgJ1b+m1s1cuwtU Qx7w6PXrlD3zCGJW8L3Uw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:IK7M9Tng1qU=:Qh93LkdD3JgS06E6m1wlFI Rs0C5uoQ0KR9WD8hvYGlZSxnNZkX9JMG4z4vQeAAt4o/YWrWVwwykgQm7ong2TEyFZV5kz6EE DKjTztGAncoyKCBfgvW80ED+sCDEPbz0176Q26g+jfbN0PdyOVjoX76EiZrF0IUoBjK8Eb8GT 3QZJ5PwIl17oRxIUum6tTV6g0x63fDpGue0Ob0GUZLmgWJWJ7IbbE/P+gwdhWOw0B3eOIPlJc yAiAKpM4OpM2PyRTBGQ9744j+yx24gL9l8Sziw4xvAAoRNcYu40RAjWV6O289PLTTgbp1pBxU 8mgVDKl5eKyGa672jdTt2NJ4EegPNh95rPp7Ms0tGvRLkZFSAX5hJDT6KNIQ5QzBI6FHOTt7a CQGd64z5yqeVU39OX60Zu3y2Dto5eLibcScwSF3A+ZuUPtFqtKP7G02HE4Oc0xxKZmGRE9SBa C/sHgucc8S0P8U8vXD6SFnHPSu8LzGNutrQ/XC+DDVyHnowZe0AMqEGGZWQth7q3uSKQpB/IK KWMxiIOlmztGgP1Gkb7ff66rcETd93b7NpetOpBZb1JbO+dXG5ZgQAuXJ1Ah0PLor3qo8MM4d JDB9lhwtspbEFNXF5laxbiqvGS/gYJpV0nbEkkHtzGgRvpvJLfLxCtCPAeq9/nVlzaC/ZCLy4 sNnHzlU7wI00LrZrEc9DCi6oLeWEC3hePkNrT5etFbB6Io/1P79+TsJ5hrROJd/Lh24UBbSWZ NNigikboV01GLcko1P7dztwLvb45d4kklnqCcouKFM8HKyf67BMB64XZ86Z1oYbJBaVezPYl Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.14; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140031 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech writes: > When people start wondering whether something is a technical term, > then it is a > big problem. Stefan like all of us, should learn from his mistakes. I think the bigger problem, rather than Stefan's ability to learn from mistakes, is to find people actually trying to improve the documentation. It's easy to find things that are not perfect. If you want to help, search for bug reports about documentation and work on them. It's not more fun for Stefan than for anyone else. Discussing that things are not perfect is trivial - that's clear to _all_ of us. All of us know that. We need more people to do the work, not people to remind and discuss that there is work to do. Michael.