From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why is `pop' not named `npop'? Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 06:25:17 +0000 Message-ID: <8734uxhk1e.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87mst5yk6n.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39938"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list To: mbork@mbork.pl Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 16 07:26:01 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rPctd-000AB5-0g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 07:26:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPct3-0007I0-CZ; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 01:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPct2-0007Hs-Bv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 01:25:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPct0-000292-5C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 01:25:23 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98251240101 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 07:25:18 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1705386318; bh=HwfLnBUo7yv3sPdEUkfQGBP74b93nV8KkwlVWU1ZJEM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:OpenPGP:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: From; b=fWqg3n7IXT2Sb5ZCquoZieyuKwzSRva9wu8lmd97xqONnoklzu6/Hn+gQ892A8IR1 mCHicQyxCFOw+6OQjCRbRC/2ybXogXm6v0G9JwhwH4u3ZfepzdfR/mjvYFGc86svsZ nNp96+u2GOxJ2gJpm/2tCS1LShmYGgGpe1VMS1b8SQwJKDnhsg2yuWfl31Sf3AzmOo AS9wvQPSyBR5/DlzbmkbECbW/ctUQQa+XYk5K4/2TNZtoE/JRUcILQCFUHcPzxrVMT pbvFQdOirQW0yHeOgb/lb8kHrJ93qWzEO8GzoIyFDbT1lsAn/L8JnaOBhlhZYbsgX9 aaeZP4523zQPA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4TDfBk0P6qz6txl; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 07:25:18 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87mst5yk6n.fsf@mbork.pl> (mbork@mbork.pl's message of "Tue, 16 Jan 2024 05:28:20 +0100") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM OpenPGP: id=7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66"; preference=signencrypt Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145741 Archived-At: mbork@mbork.pl writes: > Hi all, > > the `pop' macro is destructive. Why isn't it called `npop' then? My > wild guess is that the `n-' prefix is only used for functions, not > macros, but is that really true? Not every name is consistent, but there is also no need for a non-destructive pop since we already have car. > Best,